Talk:Thomas E. Dewey

Bias?
It's been some time since I wrote the "Public Perception Paragraph" below, and I'd like to note that the "public perception" section is even more one-sided and biased against Dewey than it was when I wrote it. As written the section is almost entirely negative and barely has any positive things to say about Dewey, which not only violates Wiki's neutrality policy, but completely ignores the many positive aspects of his career mentioned in the article itself and in numerous biographies. IMO, this section needs some serious editing to make it more balanced and present both the positive and negative effects of his career. Just a thought. 70.145.229.162 (talk) 03:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Untitled
Comments on 1948 campaign need cleaned up. DKK
 * Shouldn't it be under cleanup template or expansion. I'm not sure why the PoV check template is on here. Falphin 28 June 2005 22:09 (UTC)
 * I concur with Falphin. I also do not understand why the POV tag is here.  Perhaps the user who believes the article is POV could provide further information? Jacob1207 29 June 2005 16:15 (UTC)

The claim that his 1948 campaign was all empty phrases simply strikes me as peculiar. It seems to lack neutrality. If I had the time to fix it with a little research, I would. If you want to change or remove the template, feel free. The article simply struck me as biased. DKK

Actually, Dewey's campaign was widely seen as a bit vacuous. He would state such platitudes as "The future lies ahead of us" and something like "I'm working for a peaceful world." The Republicans admitted that their strategy was to not get into any controversial issues, since they felt they had the election sewn up. BMD

Wasn't Dewey Catholic? I think that deserves a mention.

Why does the sentence about the Thruway specifically mention that Italian-Americans were against naming the Thruway after Dewey?


 * I think the idea is because of his prosecution of members of organized crime, and organized crime was firmly founded in the italian american community (not that all italians were criminals or that other ethnicities weren't, but the entire mafia structure was setup and run by italians, and there is a glass ceiling for people who aren't full blooded italians.) So I'm guessing a certain number of italian americans either held generally favorable opinions of the people he prosecuted, or they took it as an attack on the entire italian american community.Doregasm 18:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that Thomas Dewey was Anglican/Episcopalian, but I'm not sure. FDR April 18 2005 11:04 PM (UTC)


 * Dewey was a lifelong member of the Episcopal Church. While living on Quaker Hill at his farm of Dapplemere he regularly attended the local nondenominational church. He was also close friends with the Reverend Norman Vincent Peale. According to most biographies written about him, he was a practicing Christian of traditional, Mainline Protestant, theological beliefs; he was not an evangelical or fundamentalist Christian. 2602:304:691E:5A29:A51A:9FA8:991F:7F90 (talk) 18:09, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Public Perception Paragraph
The new section entitled "public perception" is poorly-written, and IMO, curiously biased. The section basically repeats the same information about Dewey that is included in earlier sections, and offers little but criticism of his speeches and policies. Given that he served 12 years as governor of New York, was reelected in 1946 by the largest margin in state history to that point, and his exemplary legal career as a prosecutor and private attorney, the guy must have been doing something right. IMO, the section needs to either be deleted, as much of the information is already mentioned earlier in the article; or it needs to be rewritten to reflect a more objective viewpoint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.229.162 (talk) 03:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Dewey Button
Why is the Dewey Button not at all addressed here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Otterworld (talk • contribs) 00:45, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

"The house that Thomas Dewey was born in is now the site of a Tim Horton's doughnut shop." While this statement may appear to be vandalism, it is fact. The doughnut shop at 323 W. Main Street in Owosso has a Michigan Historic Landmark sign out front describing the location as Thomas Dewey's birthplace. Biblioholic 02:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Dewey and the Mafia
I have heard from a few sources, for example, the sociologist Kevin Danaher that while Thomas Dewey was governer of New York he released a convicted Mafia Don Lucky Luciano (sp.) from prison under condition that he go back to Sicily and rejuvinate the mafia there because 'the commmunists' were controlling the docks. Apparently one of the good things Mussolini did was get rid of the Italian Mafia. When I find a good source I will add this to the article. Teetotaler

Actually, according to Dewey's chief biographer Richard Norton Smith, the reason Dewey released Luciano wasn't because of Communism. Dewey is the man who had put Luciano in prison in the first place, and he was actually quite reluctant to release him from prison. According to Smith in Thomas E. Dewey and His Times, during World War Two the U.S. military cut a deal with Luciano. If Luciano would use his extensive Mafia contacts in Sicily and Italy to convince the Sicilian and Italian Mafia to help Allied forces in their invasion of Sicily and Italy, then the U.S. military would agree to let Luciano out of prison. Luciano agreed, and according to historical sources the Mafia did help American and British forces in their invasions of Sicily and Italy. The U.S. military then told Dewey - by then the Governor of New York - about their "arrangement" with Luciano, and so Dewey agreed to the deal on the condition that Luciano had to permanently leave the USA and live in Italy for the rest of his life; Luciano gladly did so. Communism played only a minor role (if any) in the decision to release Luciano. I would suggest that anyone interested in Dewey's life read Smith's biography - it is excellent. 70.145.229.162 (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

The 1997 film HOODLUM shows Dewey taking payoffs from the mob. This is a grotesque libel.Saxophobia 00:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Most successful vandalism ever?
I just fixed the longest surviving vandalism I've ever seen on Wikipedia. On November 19, 2005, user 130.39.136.122 changed Dewey's famous quote "You know that your future is still ahead of you" to "Your future is bright, very bright indeed, brighter than a bald man's dome." Amazingly this was never corrected, in spite of the strong whiff of fakery about it; there have been hundreds of edits since then. Good job, whoever it was. I can't explain it other than that they must have tapped into a zeitgeist. Maybe it is obvious that our future is brighter than a bald man's dome! 71.129.81.136 13:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * Added Fair Use rationale to image page (and I can't believe it took us three years to do it!) --Nick2253 (talk) 20:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Running mates?
Why is neither his 1944 nor his 1948 running mate named in the article? While this information is unquestionable available elsewhere on Wikipedia, a brief mention of names and rationale for the selection of each is in order in the sections on his Presidential campaigns. 2600:1004:B119:69D9:1488:C89E:FF56:C0AD (talk) 21:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Actually, both his running mates are mentioned in the article. In the section on his 1944 campaign it states that he made John Bricker his running mate, and the section on the 1948 campaign states that California Governor Earl Warren was his running mate.70.145.229.162 (talk) 23:48, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Death.
I was reading this obituary from The New York Times. It says that "Mr. Dewey was to have been a guest tonight for a party marking Saint Patrick's Day.' However, this text is conflicting with our article which says "he was due that evening at the White House in Washington to help celebrate the engagement of President Nixon's daughter, Tricia." Which is it? or is it both? Thank You. Eddie891 (talk) 19:18, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * My guess is that it may be both. The reference to Dewey being invited to the White House to celebrate Tricia Nixon's engagement comes from historian Richard Norton Smith's Thomas E. Dewey and His Times, usually considered to be the standard biography of Dewey. The reference is on p. 637. Smith writes that "Thoughtfully, the First Family wanted him [Dewey] there to celebrate the occasion" of her engagement to Edward Cox. 70.145.229.162 (talk) 02:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * On March 17, 1971 - the same day the New York Times ran Dewey's obituary listed above - they also published an article about the public announcement of the engagement of Nixon's daughter Tricia at a reception the previous evening. The announcement was intended to be a surprise to most of the public and news media, which is probably why Dewey's obituary makes no mention of it. The article is here: http://www.nytimes.com/1971/03/17/archives/nixon-announces-patricias-engagement.html?_r=0. 70.145.229.162 (talk) 17:34, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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Dapplemere farm
A brief description of Gov. Dewey's dairy farm operation on Quaker Hill is included in an article on another dairy farm he visited in late 1961 or early 1962: "Canfield Farm, Starts From Scratch with First Calf Heifers, Loose Housing, and Total Free Choice Feeding," New England Holstein Bulletin, May-June 1962, pages 14-15 (the part on Dewey's farm is on p. 15). I'm not aware of any digital archives of the NEHB.

Main points:
 * Herd started in 1947, and by 1961 had almost 90 milking cows
 * 1961 avg production of 14,000 lbs of milk & 500 lbs of fat
 * Mentions Dewey as a "pioneer of loose housing and milking parlor dairying" and that he personally kept the breeding records of his herd
 * Traveled with an associate named A.C. Muller. --A12n (talk) 16:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)