Talk:Threatening the president of the United States

Donald Trump
Donald Trump must have the most lenient secret severive ever. Imagine how many threats he receives, yet no one has been arrested or killed by secret service. --2605:A000:1E02:C0F7:2473:A7E2:2F1B:92EA (talk) 06:28, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

More articles
Tisane (talk) 12:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/man-is-arrested-for-threatening-to-assassinate-obama-on-the-internet-do-you-agree-that-he-should-b/question-237141/

Elements of the offense
 Tisane  talk/stalk 07:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat against the President;
 * Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a true threat; and
 * Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.

Untitled
The Penalties section contradicts itself, in the second sentance it claims: "The offense is punishable by five to ten years in prison", but in the last entance it claims: "The maximum penalty for threatening a United States judge or a Federal law enforcement officer is 10 years imprisonment — double the maximum penalty for threatening the President" 82.24.244.35 (talk) 00:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Classes of offenses information conflict-more imput REQUESTED
I want to get your imput on this: the article says this crime is a class D felony which is more than 5 but less than 10 years, but the source says it is punishable by not more than 5 years and I looked at this table and is says "less than 5 years" in the Class E felony row of this table. Another editor sent me this news article and this news article says its a Class D felony, which is more than 5 but less than 10 years, which is a higher class of felonies (Class D). I am confused as to which one is correct because they show conflicting info; is it Class D or E? Can I get some imput please? I want to make sure this is accurate. If not, I'm going to have to find a way to balance it. Sam.gov (talk) 05:43, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Which class felony is it?
Is it class E or class D?

This is why I put the contradict tag. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:08, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

That is what I'm trying to figure out myself as well. Sam.gov (talk) 00:37, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

I believe it is clearly a class E felony. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title18/html/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap41-sec871.htm Punishment: "...shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3559 Matching it up to a felony class: "(5) less than five years but more than one year, as a Class E felony;" Mcsteez (talk) 22:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I believe the same thing you do, so I'm going to change content in the article to reflect this. Sam.gov (talk) 16:28, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

I believe we found out what class felony this crime is. See Mcsteez's reply ^^. Sam.gov (talk) 17:17, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Here's how you can tell. If it were a class E felony, then the maximum term of supervised release would be one year. See . But if you look at news articles, you'll see that people are getting sentenced to 3-year terms of supervised release for this offense. See for example, Assassination_threats_against_Barack_Obama: "Blanchard was sentenced to one year and one day in prison for making the threats. He was also fined $3,000 and ordered to be under supervised release for three years following his prison term." Or see this case, this case, etc. All these defendants are getting sentenced to 3-year terms of supervised release.


 * "Except as otherwise provided, the authorized terms of supervised release are— (1) for a Class A or Class B felony, not more than five years; (2) for a Class C or Class D felony, not more than three years; and (3) for a Class E felony, or for a misdemeanor (other than a petty offense), not more than one year."


 * Here's another way you can tell. See . If it were a class E felony, people couldn't be getting sentenced to 5-year prison sentences for this offense. But they are sometimes getting sentenced to 5-year prison terms. See for example this case or even Rogers v. United States. "An offense that is not specifically classified by a letter grade in the section defining it, is classified if the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is— . . . (4) less than ten years but five or more years, as a Class D felony; (5) less than five years but more than one year, as a Class E felony;" Col. Quon (talk) 20:50, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I think I do see your point regarding 3-year supervised release terms bring representative of a Class D felony and occasional sentences in which the defendant receives that actual 5-year Max. I think I might change the article so it would simply say that it is a federal crime punishable by up to five years imprisonment and up to 3 years supervised release, to avoid possible future confusion. Sam.gov (talk) 23:27, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Note: Col. Quon is a WP:Sock, and has been blocked as such. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:50, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware that this editor was a sock-puppet, thanks for letting us know. Sam.gov (talk) 16:35, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

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President-elect
Does the law also concern the ［［president-elect］］? If so, the article may be updated with recent information. Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 17:01, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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