Talk:Three Harbors Council

LeFeber Northwoods Camps
Merge: camps exist to serve the council and are rarely notable outside the context of the council. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  01:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC) ✅ --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  20:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Bad merge - please consider recovering the history
I don't mean the council merger - that is fine. But the merging of the Southeast Wisconsin Council and Milwaukee County Council articles here on Wikipedia has lost most of the historical information from Southeast, and uses inaccurate information for Milwaukee. The redirect for Southeast even includes reference to Potawatomi in the first few lines - a council not included in the merger. The original pages should have been preserved and marked historic pointing to the new page for Three Harbors. All references to the Racine and Kenosha Councils (which merged in 1971 to form Southeast) have been lost. Lost are the historic camps of Kahagon and Chippecotton. While I understand the rush to be the first to post, this historical information is important to those of us who are in this council. Thanks for taking the time to do it right rather than trying to do it fast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdub144 (talk • contribs) 00:55, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know how to undo a page merge, but I think we need to move forward with the current page structure now. So, I've added placeholders for the lost information about the Racine and Kenosha Councils and historic camps Kahagon and Chippecotton.  Can you add details for each?  (Or, at least point me toward an historical source, so I can add it?)  Johnson487682 (talk) 16:35, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Some possible information here, but it is unsourced and slightly contradictory to the information provided by Vdub144 above. Johnson487682 (talk) 16:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, now I've looked into the previous content more thoroughly, and I think you're confused about something, Vdub144. As far as I can see, there never was a separate page for Southeast Wisconsin Council.  (See its history.)  There was only a redirect that pointed to a few paragraphs in Scouting in Wisconsin.  Those paragraphs were moved 100% to the new Three Harbors Council page.  (See its diff and scroll down to Line 209.)  Then the Southeast Wisconsin Council redirect was changed to point to Three Harbors.
 * If you looked at Scouting in Wisconsin at the same time as Gadget850 was in the middle of this process, it may have appeared briefly that Southeast Wisconsin Council was re-directed to the Potawatomi Council section of Scouting in Wisconsin, so maybe that's why you thought something was done incorrectly. Furthermore, I can't find any reference to Racine/Kenosha councils or Kahagon/Chippecotton camps in the earlier history of Scouting in Wisconsin or Southeast Wisconsin Council, so I don't know where you thought that information used to be, but I don't think anything was lost from Wikipedia's pages.
 * I think it would be useful to add this historical information to the Three Harbors page. If you have a source that I can reference to add this information, please provide it to me, and I would be happy to do the editing. Johnson487682 (talk) 15:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thanks to a searchable online archive of old Racine newspapers I found, I was able to locate references to a lot of background information on Chippecotton and Ka-Ha-Gon, which is now incorporated into the "Former camps" section. Johnson487682 (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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Possible merge
It has been suggested by User:Kintetsubuffalo that this article be deleted, and most of its content added into Three Harbors Council. This article is about a single copy of a statue that is displayed in front of the main office building of Three Harbors Council. The original The Ideal Scout statue is in Philadelphia and has its own article, which is not being proposed for merge. Johnson487682 (talk) 14:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ I think the information about this copy of the statue is only relevant within the context of Three Harbors Council, and this merge would also resolve the notability concern. Johnson487682 (talk) 14:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ I'm also in favor of the merger. I posted the discussion on WikiProject Scouting when I added the notability tag, but failed to flag the article for merger. From what I posted on that Talk page: "From what I can tell, it mostly exists to be part of the List of public art in Milwaukee and Template, but those links could easily be redirected to the Council."  Deflagro   Contribs/Talk 14:19, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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