Talk:Till Lindemann

"as well as his use of lyrics in songs which have caused controversy, particularly when it comes to Nazism"
Could this be expanded? As it does not discuss the other side of the story; namely, Lindemann denying it multiple times. From a Playboy interview:

''I am fed up with allegations of being a right wing band. My daughter – my dearest in my life – came to me at that time to ask me: tell me, do you play in a Nazi band? At this point I knew we had overstepped a border. That was too much for me.''

http://till-lindemann.skynetblogs.be/archive/2007/11/28/english-long-interview-playboy-january-2006.html

And also:

''We come from the east and have grown up as a socialist. We used either punks or Goths - we hate Nazis! And then there comes such a far-fetched accusations. We still do the same thing, and nobody in America or Mexico would get the idea to us dense stuff like that. This only happens here in Germany. Our response to this hostility was "Links 2 3 4", so we have made it clear where we are to classify politically... We used to fight with these idiots right, and that we would now be done.''

http://rammsteinfangel.blogspot.ca/2011/12/exclusive-interview-with-till-lindemann.html

''The lyrics were written in response to allegations of fascism/nazism directed at the band. In the song they say "my heart beats to the left, 2-3-4", insinuating they are on the left of the political spectrum.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_2-3-4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.91.159.227 (talk) 04:45, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Source
Heading added to improve layout.--Boson 17:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

This article seems to be a series of cut & paste dumps from a fan site. Much comes from here, where the author seems to have released the work from copyright. Much of the information is trivial, without context, and in interviewer/interviewee format, rather than paragraphs. I had to read far down the page to figure out who this person IS. Joyous 19:21, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)

It seems to me the person has only made these bio's as a way of plugging their site. Not all the information is accurate. Alot of it is just speculation.-anon user

This article is entirely my own work, using sources both online and in text. There is very little hard information about any members of Rammstein, not even their own website has any information on them. Yes, I do run a Rammstein website, not the one cited above, that's belongs to a friend; I am a fan, that's how I know about them.

The speculation has been kept down to a minimum, but if every peice of speculation was removed from these bios, you woul have nothing but a date of birth and name...

The sources cited are real, and I can reference them more in depth if required. If you feel they are inappropriate the please remove them -minxfic

Wow this article is poorly written. It's completely disorganized. -anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.196.60.42 (talk) 23:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Wrong link
I just tried to click on the link for Placebo but ended up in the meaning of the word instead. Now, for a temporaly setting I linked it to Placebo (band) instead.

Clean up
I have done some editing to improve the layout of the article. I removed some information as superfluous - such as the fact he hasn't been seen wearing glasses (hardly useful).

Wikipedia policy is to use the surname rather than the forename. I have modified the article accordingly.

Lindemann is currently described as crouching like an in-fielder during concerts. The only issue here is that I don't know what an in-fielder is, and I certainly don't know how one crouches! I assume it's an Americanism of some kind. It may be that a lot of other people won't know either. Can anyone think of an alternative? Slinky Puppet


 * I trimmed out some general 'Rammstein' info and moved two of the smaller interview sections to the Quotessection. I also removed the speculation about his children - hardly useful if not verifiable, it's fan site stuff perhaps.


 * I'm trying to get the cleanup removed, but I don't feel justified until I can either properly ref the interview section or deal with it in some other way that works. I may move it here to the talk temporarily just so I can complete the article cleanup. Any opinions? --DanielCD 18:31, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

I changed the "in-fielder" statement because I am not a fan of baseball, and if I didn't already knew what was being referred to, I wouldn't have pictured it correctly (especially since mention of that he hits his /leg/ was not mentioned). I chose to use the verb "squat" since that seems more universal. ~sonatina

Sounds good to me. --DanielCD 02:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I remember Richard Z. Kruspe, one of the members of Rammstein once said in a interview that Till had the worst English. I think this also shines through when he sings in English, so I feel that the statement claiming that he speaks excellent English should be changed or removed. I'll look into it though, and try to find out more.

Hmmmmm... Actually, upon meeting Till Lindemann myself, and seeing various interviews with him speaking in English, his English is actually pretty good. He speaks more of British English than American English. Richard, having lived in the US for many years may see Till's English as bad because he is now used to the abbreviated, broken form used in America. Also, my husband is from East Germany as well, and informs me that Till's English is very good. I'm sure this is probably not a big deal, but I just wanted to add my two cents. ~Elizabeth S.

I removed the statement about Till being with Sophia Thomalla. There exist no accurate sources on the matter, and many are contradictory. Also, the source originally cited for this information actually didn't mention Thomalla at all, so I felt that that was yet more reason to remove the inappropriate statement.

Yes, they have been seen in pictures together--but so have countless other people with Till. The articles announcing them as a "couple" came out on Das Bild, a German tabloid known by many in Germany as one of the least factual, most gossipy, and simply trashy rags around. In fact, Das Bild has always over-sensationalized Rammstein's dark image and has long been one of the publications trying to stir up hate and controversy around the band. When they came out with an article on the Mein Teil music video, Till and Flake went so far as to pose next to a copy of the paper while making funny faces, just to show how "seriously" they took the publication. So I highly doubt that any articles that they published on Till's "new relationship" were anything other than sensationalism to lure in readers, the same as their publication has always been.

This theory of mine is backed up by the fact that only they started this story (no other publications began their own independent reports--other publications that brought up this piece of gossip only did so after Das Bild's article and they always reference it), that there has been no news on this relationship since those articles have been published (and it's been over half a year... Surely if Till was really with this girl, we would have seen them together since then and would have heard more news? Till is quite a prominent figure in his country, after all), and they have yet to be seen non-platonically in any pictures together.

There are two videos with Thomalla in them where speaks about her "relationship" with Till, but her answers make it seem like she is pretending because she says that she knows nothing of the content of his music, lyrics, stage show, his current location (she says that she doesn't keep in touch with him while he's on tour? Really?), or basically anything else. In fact, most Germans know Thomalla as being very dishonest and doing whatever that she can to gain attention and popularity. She comes from a family of German actresses and she apparently doesn't have much talent, so she often resorted to doing whatever she could to get attention, such as taking parts on unpopular and generally looked-down-upon TV shows. She's seen as a sell-out. Also, another article was published in more prestigious newpaper that was written by an acquaintance to Lindemann, who said that the rumor that he and Sophia are dating is false.

Therefore, I think that the only way that such a big claim about Till's relationship status can be made is if we have definitive proof (a statement by Till himself, or photos of Till and Sophia being non-platonic). Any conclusion needs to be based on more than mere hear-say, and definitely not hear-say from sources known to have questionable truthfulness (Das Bild, Thomalla herself).

If anyone would like to further discuss this, please do not edit any of what I have written here on the talk page. Apparently some people here don't know proper talk page etiquette, so if you would like to continue this discussion and contribute more sources, please do so underneath here. Danke schön. Leroset (talk) 21:40, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Interview
These quotes are from original interviews with Lindemann between 1996-2002. For a man who dislikes being interviewed, he gives a lot of interviews, and they are quite interesting and give great insight into his thinking. Some minor editing for clarity has been done, but no content has been changed.

On his inspirations for lyrics/poems
I try to put myself in the mind of certain people: how do some f**ked up situations happen. I want to enter their brain: a space with brightly colored and black and white cobwebbed nooks and crannies, the ones you don't like to come close to because of the mess you will find. I only try to describe, without attacking. I understand that people can be shocked by that.

Only five minutes ago, I read in a newspaper that we incite people to violence. I have read that before, but the reaction that came closest to me was a letter from a girl that had been raped when she was nine or ten years old. She wrote that she could identify with the song Weisses Fleisch - that was also in the index for a short while. I spoke about rape while she couldn't. She had grown up with the idea that she had to keep that period from her youth a secret, and couldn't tell anyone. Through my song, she understood she could talk about it. She was so grateful I had written that song... I still don't understand what people get so excited about.

I have seen in Indonesia what happens to children and prostitutes. And if you would know what happens in this town at night behind the curtains, my lyrics are very innocent. Those little studios and basement steps of the Red Light district, those small S&M shops with cages and whips: how sick is humanity? And in comparison, how little the themes are that I use in my lyrics, or the things I do onstage?

Interviewer: And yet you are obsessed by the things that take place in those little studios and shops because that is what you write about...

That has more to do with the fact that all the other subjects are so dull. It has all been said already! What I hear in German music doesn't grab me by the balls. It is all about love tra la la...

Height
There exist no official height listings for any of the band members. Stop adding them. Whoever is adding them is getting them off of some free site that just added any height they thought the band was. The heights are incorrect. Heights can be scaled from any photograph, since we know how long a certain guitar is in length, or a drum stick or even a microphone... Too easy...--Oracleofottawa (talk) 02:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Till Lindemann's height was listed in an article involving him, his ex-girlfriend and their 4 year daughter. To quote the article:

"He's muscular, broad-shouldered. He is 1,93 meters in height and he weighs 83 kilos. On stage, Rammstein's front-man Till Lindemann (42, Angel) loves to use a flame-thrower, performs a brutal show to a gloo-my Metal-sound. Just as hard and as high-handed he acts on stage, he is said to behave in private life. This is what his ex-life companion Anja Koeseling (24 years-old) claims. She informed against him - because of bodily harm! The rock-millionaire doesn't pay enough for his daughter, so she sued him for financial support".

It was originally written in German. Lilijana 02:45, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Where is this article? I've never seen it.

It's located at http://www.DasSchoensteKind.de/BildamSonntagEnglish.htm now unfortunatly, the site no longer exists so to view the article copy and paste that link into the way back machine www.archive.org an click "take me back" which will then give you a list "Search Results for Jan 01, 1996 - Sep 20, 2005 " any of those links

I.e archive march 17th 2003, this link (http://web.archive.org/web/20030317032905/http://www.DasSchoensteKind.de/BildamSonntagEnglish.htm) will take you to that article. Thats one complete link not two, copy an paste with no brackets, no spaces.

As I say, translated from German. Lilijana 00:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

This is not an official link,it's just some fansite. It says so clearly on it's main-page. They most likely got the 6'3 from the one fansite it was first on. Which happened to be a Geocities. Till is not that tall. If Till is 6'3 then Ollie must be atleast 6'7. Highly unlikely. I estimate Till's height to be 5'10-6'0. Paul H. Landers is often commented about as being short by the bandmembers, such as in Lichtspielhaus. However the site that lists till as 6'3" lists paul at 5'9(An inch above the Average german height for a male). Why would they call paul small if he's above average height? Not because he's skinny, because most of the members are, Schneider, Flake, Ollie. It's because he is short as in probably 5'5" or so. If Till is indeed 6'3" that would make Paul about about 5'10" or 5'11" not short at all... Which would make no sense. So the whole Till being 6'3"... Ollie being 6'7" paul 5'10"... Not possible.

Actually, thats from an interview, so regardless of what site it is posted on, it was originally posted to a magazine/newspaper. Which are still online, however you can find those yourself.

Actually, according to Wikipedia itself, German men average 180.2 cm (5 ft. 10.94 in.) tall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_height

Also, I don't see the above statements proving the heights "not possible". If Landers is called short by other band members, isn't it only natural, considering the fact that he's the shortest of the band?

These are the heights I've typically found given to the band members – I've searched for metric figures in particular, since they're from Germany. Yes, these are from fansites, so I'm not bothering to give any links.

Till Lindemann 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.) Richard Kruspe-Bernstein 180 cm (5 ft. 11 in.) Paul H. Landers 175 cm (5 ft. 9 in.) Oliver "Ollie" Riedel 200 cm (6 ft. 6¾ in.) Christoph "Doom" Schneider 193 cm (6 ft. 4 in.) Christian "Flake" Lorenz 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.)

These metric heights are often accompanied by incorrect conversions to Imperial units. I'll admit that these seem oddly round figures, save Schneider, and that the average height of the band is rather... high.

So I did my best to find a comparison picture with someone of known height. I found this picture of Lindemann with Vin Diesel, who's 185 cm (6 ft. 1 in.) by his own account. I'd say he's at least close to the claimed height.

http://www.raketa.cz/kama/img/35446_1_55.jpg

It should be noted though, that many suspect Mr. Diesel of rounding his height up.

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Vin-Diesel-71.html http://www.celebheights.com/a/7.html

Hope this was any help.

Actually that average German height being 5'10 is incorrect, it's sources are also sketchy. Here is a more reliable site. http://www.tallpages.com/uk/index.php?pag=ukstatist.php Which lists the average height in germany for males at 5'8".

Also yes... Vin Diesel rounds his height up. Here is a discussion on Vin Diesels height which and they have come to the conclusion based on eyewitness's that he is about 6'0.5" 6 feet one half an inch(I want to mention alot of the people on that site who saw him pegged him at being about 5'10" which is a possibility.)

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Vin-Diesel-71.html See this photograph http://www.rammsteinniccage.com/galleries/group/images/promo/grouppromo_168.jpg Notice Vin is about an inch shorter than Till is. And Vin's height being 6'0.5" that would make till about 6'1.5" not 6'3" which is what was claimed to begin with. But this photograph is also sketchy because schneider appears shorter than till in this shot. These heights....

Till Lindemann 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.) Richard Kruspe-Bernstein 180 cm (5 ft. 11 in.) Paul H. Landers 175 cm (5 ft. 9 in.) Oliver "Ollie" Riedel 200 cm (6 ft. 6¾ in.) Christoph "Doom" Schneider 193 cm (6 ft. 4 in.) Christian "Flake" Lorenz 190 cm (6 ft. 2¾ in.)

Are very inaccurate. Schneider is not 6'4"... If he were that tall he would tower over most people he took photographs with, but when he's in photographs espically with women he does not. Here's a random photograph of him with a female fan. http://www.rammsteinniccage.com/galleries/christoph/images/amateur/christophamateur_012.jpg IF schneider is 6'4" that woman must be atleast 6'1"... Highly unlikely, or maybe all of the rammstein fans are giants too!

So not only do the heights that you listed make no sense... Compaired to known heights of people they just don't add up at all. Not only that... But they come from an unreliable fansite that probably just made up the heights from bad guessing. The following heights make much more sense...

Till Lindemann---6'1.5" Richard Kruspe-Bernstein 5'9" Paul H. Landers---5'6" Oliver "Ollie" Riedel 6'3"-6'4" Christoph "Doom" Schneider 6'2" Christian "Flake" Lorenz 6'0"-6'2"

But these heights are also very sketchy and are probably different, but they are a heck of alot closer than the one's that was posted before.

Are you kidding me, Till is clearly 6' 3". His body is bulit like a man of that size. e.g. he's barrel chested and he has a large head. Not to mention his deep baritone voice which is common among men of that size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.56.135.2 (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Whoever just edited this completly mangled my post.

You are supposed to do it like this, not edit under each of my paragraphs. Now it's hard to tell what I wrote and what you wrote. I can't even read what you've wrote since you've done it all wrong.

The fact of the matter is this... The fansites list the members too tall. There aren't any official listings of heights so putting up the members heights in the article would be pointless. Even when speculating the heights they don't add up to the heights listed on most fansights. I also want to add since zero official listings exist,90% of the fansights copy from one another. Posting german or dutch fansites of all places as a source gets you nowhere,Until official heights are posted there is obviously no way to know for sure what their heights are. Even speculating gets completly different numbers(though mine are closer to reality).

The sites that list their heights also usually list their WEIGHTS... How in the HECK could they know the band-members weights? That's completly absurd. The fact is... It's all speculation. Bad speculation at that.

Also you've failed to show how Paul is anywhere near 5'9". Posting a photo where kruspe is slouching makes no difference. And as far as the schneider photo goes... They are both standing straight enough to guage heights. If they were to stand back to back straight schneider would be about 3 inches taller. And if he's 6'4 she would be about 6'1. Highly unlikely for a woman. Same with the ridel photo. You claim they are not standing straight, in reality they are standing straight enough to guage height (assuming their feet are flat). And as far as the official german height... 1. It makes no difference if it's a german person or not. 2. You're arguing from incrudelity. In reality its alot more reliable than some Japanese site. So im not going to really argue this anymore. Until they post official heights or tell their heights in an interview (theirself), we can not be 100% sure of their height. And the articles on Wiki aren't for speculation... espically when it comes to something as trivial as a musicians height.

My Two Cents As I mention above in an earlier edit comment, I met Till Lindemann. There is no way he is 6'3". I'm always amazed when I read that on these fansites. Yes, German men tend to be taller than American men on average, but my husband is 6'6" and Till is much more than a three-inch height difference from my husband. I would guess he is no more than 6'1" - tops. But this is only a guess. ~Elizabeth S.

DO NOT EDIT THIS FRAGMENT...POST ANY RESPONSES IN A NEW FRAGMENT SEPERATED BY ""

Sorry about the mess, I'm new with this. I deleted my paragraphs now – this was a pointless arguement to begin with. And none of the photos were really any good for this anyway. I'd always thought those stats came from some German music mag, but maybe not. This doesn't still mean I'd agree with everything you've said ;-)

His music
To the person who created "On child abuse, incest, and Rammstein's music":

Please don't be offended by his lyrics, and if you are so, perhaps you should not allow your daughter to listen to it.

Also, please understand that most likely she enjoys Rammstein music for it's sound, not nescesarily (sp?) for it's lyrics.


 * Uh, dude, that whole thing is an interview with Till. Till was the one talking about how if his "daughter be a victim" he'd "cut one of the balls of the perpetrator off or shoot him or something like that" and such. --Der Sporkmeister 00:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Picture
Is the current picture in the article an accurate representation of Lindemann's appearance? Shawnc 08:11, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I would say so. -- SoothingR(pour) 10:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Yikes. Shawnc 21:39, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * In Rammstein's most recent music video (Rosenrot) Till has a brushcut. You can view the music video online (legally!). &#126; MDD4696 (talk &bull; contribs) 23:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Just adding that Till is one of the hottest men out there. (drool)

Rolled Rs

 * Another is a tendency to roll his sung Rs, which is due to the deepness of his singing voice.

Although it even says so in the quote at the bottom, I'm skeptical of this. How can singing deeply cause your tongue to move from or  to ? --Ptcamn 11:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems to be a gimmick to me. Shawnc 06:45, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

That is what the artcle is referring to when itmentions the Teutonic Rs. he says that it is not delibirate and that it comes on when he tries to sing in a deeper, more powerful way. i heard that in aninterview with Rammstein themselves.--Floydiac 22:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Someone edited the article to indicate that the rolled Rs are commone to all Germans. I reworded it to be less caustic, but I don't know if it's even true as written. Until that fact is settled, it should at least be written in a professional way. Aerodave 18:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Trilled Rs are certainly not common to all German speakers! But especially German speakers from the Berlin area. Such speakers do exist, but most German Rs are made at the back of the throat, nearly similar to French. However, trilling Rs have been common practice in choral, symphonic and opera music. ((unsigned))

As I said, it may or may not be true. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than myself should make a clarifying edit. I tried not to change the factual nature of the content (correct or not), I only wanted to remove the unencyclopedic--and mean--opinion statement. Aerodave 03:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

> Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than myself should make a clarifying edit. -- Being German I can assure you that this rolling Rs business is utter bullshit. Most Germans, including myself, are unable to produce a rolling R. People from Bavaria are exceptional in that the rolling R is part of their local dialect/accent, but even there not everyone is able to produce that rolling R sound. Till is using the rolling R to "dramatize" his voice, and it works pretty well if you ask me!


 * Rolling Rs is a basic component of speaking german. It just comes naturally to people.

Also, there is no way Till has "club foot" SIGN YOUR DISCUSSIONS -- mando 16:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Rolling Rs is not very common in Germany, only a few dialects use it. --Oagersnap 17:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Its called "High German" and is how upper-class esp those with Prussian backgrounds speak. Its the same as the differences between the higher and lower classes in England. The French also are known for doing the same (they don't all do their Rs guturally) It's nothing to do with the actual tone of his voice, it IS put on for some of his songs, i.e. Du hast, and isn't in others, i.e. Stirbt nicht vor mir which is a more mainstream duet. Its plainly obvious that it is only done to increase the intensity of the music and lyric, and does it well. Squad&#39;nLeedah 21:01, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

And before I get "I'm German and that's bullshit" comments, watch a few german doco's and movies, modern OR old its plainly bloody obvious that it IS done.


 * Wow. This stupidity is why no one takes wikipedia seriously. Yes, all Germans roll their "R". That is how you pronounce the letter in German. A single beat roll. Similar to Japanese. Germans do not have French "R". lol What Mr. Lindemann does that is unique, is roll the "R" that proceeds a vowel at the end of a syllable. This "R" is usually silent. Similar to the British pronunciation. And yes, as someone pointed out, this is typical of opera. It is a known fact that Rammstein is modern German opera. Even Katarina Wagner agrees.184.155.130.147 (talk) 18:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Lindemann's children
I bring into dispute the gender of one of Lindemann's children. It is common knowledge that he has two daughters (Nele, 1985, and Marie-Luise, c.1993) and also a son born c.2000. However, the gender of his other child as well as his/her date of birth are unknown. I recommend that the statement that he has two daughters and two sons be removed and be replaced with a statement along the lines of, "Till has four children: two daughters, a son and a fourth - gender and date of birth unknown". --SaraFL 21:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Chris Isaak and Milk?
Can anyone cite that quote? It sounds kind of suspicious. Col.clawhammer 20:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Eight months and no source or comment. I'm getting rid of it.

Retarded Zombie Move
Does anyone have info about this? Sometimes, as an example, at Mann gegen Mann video, he acts like a spastic Zombie.

Anything worth telling about this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.99.45.79 (talk • contribs).

Water or custard?
The Christian Lorenz page says: "A statement from Sergeant Thomas Radula of the Worcester Police Department stated that Lindemann was simulating sex with Flake onstage "using a phallic object that shot water over the crowd"." (emphasis mine) - so what is it, water or custard? JAL 83.80.81.236 14:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Neither. Most concerts used diluted pernot. This however, is beside the point, if the statement says custard the statement says custard.Squad&#39;nLeedah 21:08, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's exactly my question, what did the statement read? Two wikipages have the statement different, one saying 'water', the other 'custard'. Which one is it? JAL 83.80.81.236 13:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Olympic swimmer
Can we have a citation for this please. Ive read this claim, and read a reply from Till Lindemann stating this as utter bullshit. He was invited to TRAIN with the olympic team as a benefit of being a junior vice champion. However, i cant provide THIS quotation as since ive read this, all claims for and against this appear to have completely vanished. Squad&#39;nLeedah 21:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I PARTIALLY take this back. Ive found one quote on Herzeleid.com http://herzeleid.com/en/faq/band#faq7 HOWEVER, its supposedly come from Christoph Schneider, and it has no confirmation or denial from Lindemann. Also, while i actually like the site, and would agree with the translations on it, i dont trust the rest of the content. The award they claim to have recieved apparently reads - AWARDED TO WWW.HERZELEID.COM FOR MORE THAN 1,500,000 ALBUM CDs SOLD WORLDWIDE RAMMSTEIN // HERZELEID UNIVERSAL MUSIC / MOTOR MUSIC BERLIN, DECEMBER 2005 I dont see a website being co-awarded something for a band they are based around selling 1.5 million albums. If it was common practice for a retailer to be awarded for selling x amount of copies of an album they had no hand what so ever in making, Sanity and the like would be the most awarded companies in the world. Squad&#39;nLeedah 02:19, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Harmonica
Could we have some actual verification that it was Christian "Flake" Lorenz playing his keyboard, not Till on a harmonica, in Los?

Either way that section needs rewriting. -anon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.110.157.231 (talk) 02:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

02/04/07, changed minor wording from "He has four children: two girls and a boy" to "He has three children: two girls and a boy".

Departure from Rammstein
Something should be mentioned about Till's departure from Rammstein just recently.

I heard it on Triple J earlier today.

There is a press release kicking around somewhere.


 * Here's a link to the Blabbermouth article. Nufy8 14:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

As of 7/16/2007 10:36pm Central, the article described above has been removed from blabbermouth.net. I4eather 03:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It`s a hoax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.162.158 (talk) 21:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Till's first name

 * Is "Diedrich" really Till Lindemann's actual first name?


 * Yeah, is it?? I've never heard that before... Has anyone got a source? --SaraFL (talk) 17:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

It isn't. His real first name is Till. Dietrich is the older version of the German name Till. It's like how Al came from Alex. Just because someone named their child Al doesn't make their "real name" Alex. It's Al. Same for Till. Leroset (talk) 21:12, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

A poet?
It's stated at the beginning that he's a poet. I've never heard about it, so could someone clarify it? Or maybe someone meant "songwriter"? Piotr Mitas 15:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Possibly... it's probably best if it's changed to songwriter, if there's no source. ≈  The Haunted Angel  18:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Till Lindemann? He's a lyricist and a poet. But he writes poetry without having poetry as an official profession. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.180.228.186 (talk) 05:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

He wrote a poetry book called Messer ("Knife"). Google for it. It's in German language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.162.158 (talk) 17:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

This is true. And his father was a notable poet also. And his mother was a journalist.Words sort of roll in his family.--Oracleofottawa (talk) 07:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Multinstrumentalist?
Instruments: 	vocals, drums, guitar, bass, harmonica... I'm pretty sure he stated he don't know anything about instruments. Besides he is vocalist and lyricist this seems misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.100.125.76 (talk) 20:37, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Filmography
Are we including films that people wrote a song (or two) for and did not appear in? Till wasn't actually in "Lost Highway" - he's written two Rammstein songs that were in it. Murdockh (talk) 22:19, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion
I believe that Till Lindemann's article here on Wikipedia is too small for how much information on him can actually be found. Can people (WITH SOURCES) expand this in great amounts so we can have a decently large article for him? Correspond with his article at the German Wikipedia and you'll see a fine example of how much information you can add. May I suggest we create a new section or two in reference to his poetic references in his songs? He writes these songs and so it would be pretty nice to see this on here, along with Interviews or such as to why he chose those lyrics or textual references. Finally, which parts of the article contain original research? I don't suspect anything there to be original research. Burklemore1 (talk) 00:53, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Basket-Weaver
Was he really a Basket-Weaver?119.92.93.84 (talk) 16:51, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes 212.111.254.161 (talk) 02:33, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

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Personal Life
It says in the Personal Life section: "Contrary to his musical style, he has stated that he "hates noise"" Perhaps I am misunderstanding something, but this sounds like a subjective description.Thereaverofdarkness (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

The Sexual Assault allegations against Till Lindemann are all over the German Press
And reliable ones, we are only describing this an allegation. With regards to the BLP policy I don´t think when Harvey Weinstein was accused of wrongdoing before there was any police investigation into him that Wikipedia was following a strict policy of not mentioning it because he is still alive. StrongALPHA (talk) 10:23, 2 June 2023 (UTC)


 * WP:BLPN notified as I think this is going to require more input. — Czello (music) 10:30, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @2a03:f580:c868:e000:500e:4ed6:fa71:4c90 @Tigana39200 tell everyone else who was interested in taking this down that there´s lots of press about this story. StrongALPHA (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No opinion of whether this should be included or not, but if it is it must be sourced properly. It might be necessary to semi-protect the article. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:10, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I told you guys! StrongALPHA (talk) 16:19, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No one disbelieved you, we just need to be very strict about sourcing where allegations and BLPs are concerned. — Czello (music) 17:09, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Again I had to correct it because it was simply wrong, Shelby Lynn (first woman) did not say that Lindemann sexual assaulted her. Read BBC: "Ms Lynn, who has emphasised on social media she wasn't sexually assaulted, said her memory of the evening was "blurry" and she recalls feeling nauseous and vomiting at a party after the concert." --KurtR (talk) 04:35, 19 June 2023 (UTC) Updated KurtR (talk) 04:50, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The allegations were dropped for lack of evidence, does this need to be 2/3rds of his personal life section? 2806:2F0:9181:F9E5:71EE:4E7:A6E:F4A9 (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

he isnt atheist
the sources cited for that claim are insufficient 197.232.110.211 (talk) 05:25, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Why are they? I’m as atheist as they come is pretty clear-cut. — Czello (music) 07:43, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Rolling Stones source
, I'd appreciate a more lengthy explanation of why the Rolling Stone and Der Spiegel sources cannot be used in the article. In particular, I'm unconvinced of your arguments that i) a sexual relationship falls under the purview of WP:ROLLINGSTONEPOLITICS and that ii) Der Spiegel is biased in this case. I hope we are able to find a middle ground. — Ixtal ( T / C ) &#8258; Non nobis solum. 13:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I dont know about Der Spiegel but Rolling Stone is an extremely biased and unreliable source in anything that isnt music related and should imo not be used to make such claims --FMSky (talk) 16:10, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , I do not know german but it seems the rolling stone article is quoting or taking its information from Der Spiegel so I fail to see how it is them making any claim at all in such a way that would indicate biased or unreliable journalistic practices. — Ixtal ( T / C ) &#8258; Non nobis solum. 20:19, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Rolling Stone Politics is clear that the source cannot be used on "politically and societally sensitive issues". The Rolling Stone source was not merely reporting on a "sexual relationship", but allegations of sexual misconduct. Regardless of whether it's merely repeating claims made by Der Spiegel, Rolling Stone cannot be used on Wikipedia for anything other than music/movie reviews and general, uncontroversial content relating to such.
 * Regarding Der Spiegel - which I have not removed - the Hamburg Regional Court recently ruled that Der Spiegel coverage of this case violated the European Convention of Human Rights. Other German-language sources (will link to next time I'm on laptop and can guarantee I'm translating the correct sources) say the court also ruled that the publication used anonymous Reddit postings as sources. These are issues that need to be addressed by the wider community here, and couldn't/shouldn't be resolved on the talk page of one musician, where discussion input would be minimal at best. Kind regards, Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 22:13, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Zunge
New single is up for pre-order on Amazon Music. 'Zunge' will release September 8th. 94.143.189.20 (talk) 13:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)