Talk:Tim Echols

=NPOV dispute: The article "Tim Echols" edited heavily by WP editor named timechols= I believe the edits to this article from January 4-5, 2015, violate WP:COI, WP:SPS, WP:SOAP, WP:NPOV, among others. Could an editor with intimate knowledge of both WP policy and this article's subject, such as @ytea, please weigh in here? TP anonymous (talk) 01:24, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no such intimate knowledge. However, these edits clearly need revision and it has been conducted. @ytea say howdy! 14:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I have removed a sentence that I know to be an incorrect conclusion regarding a controversy listed by @tp_anynymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timechols (talk • contribs) 00:55, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I live in the state and have made corrections and found additional citations. It is accurate now though the photos probably should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EnergyExpertGA (talk • contribs) 21:45, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Accuracy isn't the issue, EnergyExpertGA. The article lacks significant detail on a number of its claims and generally reads like a promotional flyer for its subject. It was mostly written and maintained by the person that is its subject, which is why McMatter put the tag on it. His tag should stay, in my opinion, but I am open to other opinions. TP anonymous (talk) 01:05, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

=Current issues with this article=


 * Truett Cathy story may be important to the subject's personal autobiography, but it is not relevant to an encyclopedia entry.
 * Phrases like "diversity in energy sources" and "supporter of energy efficiency," references to his family's energy use, or bills he has opposed read like campaign policy documents.
 * Several references are absent of sufficient detail, such as (among many others):
 * 1) "Echols has written about the top five energy issues facing Georgia." - How is this relevant? What are these issues and what did he write about them?
 * 2) "Echols weighed in on the Georgia Right to Life controversy" - What was the controversy and how did he weigh in?
 * 3) "Echols' efforts at events like PGA tournaments made a real difference" - Again, what were the efforts, and what difference did they make, and does this difference violate neutral point of view requirements?
 * This statement: "Echols upon election added solar thermal to his house in Winterville, GA causing some to wonder why a Republican was being so progressive." - This claim is not supported by the article linked and is tonally a bit off for an encyclopedia entry. Again, there is more than a little campaign policy document flavor to this.

There are other examples, but this is a start to help EnergyExpertGA understand the problem. Accuracy isn't the problem. The intimate and promotional tone of the article comes directly from its having been written and edited by its subject. This is why McMatter's autobiography tag is so important. I am eager to have others weigh in. TP anonymous (talk) 01:21, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Agree that article still reads like a promotional autobio. Removed unnecessary story from bio and pictures. I think more clean up and trimming need to be done to get red of the NPOV tag.108.195.234.31 (talk) 04:32, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

=Bio Removal= The bio info was sourced from the exact same website as the material you reverted to. It is personal info on the new updated state website. There is no copyright infringement.


 * Sourced from and copied from are 2 different things, a cut and paste copy from a site with a restricted copyright is copyright infringement and not allowed by law or on Wikipedia. This doesn't even encroach on the overly detailed and promotional tone on the writing of the bio you copied from the government site, which is also not allowed. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 23:24, 17 November 2020 (UTC)