Talk:Titanic in popular culture

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Fixes
I removed pointless sections that has little or no relevance to the subject, moved all movies to the List of films about the RMS Titanic

It is much better now, and also, some TV shows need to be removed also. I didn't do that, but someone should. Rest of the article is not so bad, so i will remove rewrite tag now. -- Tadijaspeaks 21:27, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Main Page appearance on 15 April
Please note that I have nominated Sinking of the RMS Titanic to appear on the Main Page next month on 15 April. In conjunction with that, it is proposed that this article will also be linked from the Main Page on the same day. Please see Today's featured article/requests for details. Prioryman (talk) 23:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Alfred Hitchcock Titanic movie that never was
From ref: Saturday, April 11, 1998 / Sinking the facts / The Observer News Service


 * Shipping companies lobbied cinema chains and the [British] government to tone down or stop two British films about the sinking of the Titanic ... The director Alfred Hitchcock was one target of their behind-the-scenes attacks. Their bids to suppress material which might frighten away passengers continued for more than a quarter of a century after the disaster in 1912. ... In 1938 the British Chamber of Shipping wrote to the board demanding that it "stop production" of a film planned by Hitchcock about the Titanic.

The "Alfred Hitchcock Titanic movie that never was" might make an interesting addition to this article. Perhaps after the sentence: "RMS Titanic has been featured in a large number of films." there could be "However... "

I can't find the original source, but that came from Indian Express Newspapers (Bombay), (and there are other references). ~Just a suggestion, regards, ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 16:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Also: On 08/Jul/1938, The Times[1] reported…


 * Mr. Alfred Hitchcock, ... has now undertaken to make a film at Hollywood. He will work in association with Mr David. O. Selznick, and the subject of his first film will be the sinking of the Titanic. The reconstruction of disasters to ships at sea has in the past been vividly done in the film, and the sinking of the Titanic will be photographed as realistically as possible. The first scenes will be photographed early next year. ~However, that is from a blog from www.hitchcockwiki.com

~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 16:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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1. The London Times? The Times (of London)? ~E 184.76.225.106 (talk)


 * I think you'll find I've addressed this with the new version of the article that I've just posted... Prioryman (talk) 17:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Did I miss that entry, or was it a new addition?  Either way -- great job!

TV
It looks like any and all TV shows and TV movies have been purged from this article. What's the rationale for that? How is TV not "popular culture"? Poems, dance, and a whole 500 word section on one obscure song, yet the most popular of "popular culture", TV, is omitted. Barsoomian (talk) 05:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Well after a week, no comment. So I'll go ahead and restore the TV section. Barsoomian (talk) 03:01, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, my comment is to recommend a brief summary, with a 'Main article' link to a List of TV episodes featuring the RMS Titanic (or similar title), and move most of the TV stuff there. As it is now, it reads as a TV trivia list, anyway.  Making a list would also allow a couple of items from the List of Films... to be moved there.
 * "TV movies" have not been purged -- they can be found on List_of_films_about_the_RMS_Titanic.
 * They were purged -- all deleted from this article without discussion. There wasn't even a mention or a link to a TV show. Lots about poems, musicals and other ephemera though.  You may have noticed that I already found that the TV episodes, and movies, at List of films about the RMS Titanic‎ and linked them here. I moved a few notable shows that had been on this page a few months ago. I skipped the minor references which were mostly jokes about the Cameron movie.   And the TV is less trivial than many of the obscure works listed here. Especially the very detailed section  "In African-American culture" which is about one song and turns it into a huge commentary on racial politics. Barsoomian (talk) 18:33, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The current solution looks good -- a separate table included on List of films..., hash-linked from this article. Eventually split the two tables (?). Some concise prose is in order since the TV section looks lonely and out of place. (I added a little, editing welcome). ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 21:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Jack Chick tract about the Titanic
There was a comic book tract about the Titanic written by Jack Chick. The book claims that someone called Chester "didn't need God, but when his ship began to sink, he realized how wrong he was." The only problem is, this religious parody just fails to do the research on Titanic. Seriously, when did Jack Chick come up with stuff like that?! Here's the link. --Angeldeb82 (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

in Doctor Who
The article does not seem to mention "Voyage of the Damned", a Doctor Who Christmas special set aboard the starship Titanic. However, as there is no "TV" section, I do not see a place to easily insert the information. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:44, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It was there a year ago, along with lots of other TV series and episodes, but someone deleted them all.  If I don't get any response to my query above soon, I'll restore them and tidy them up. It really is unjustifiable to exclude TV from  "popular culture" while listing relatively obscure poems, dance performances, etc. Barsoomian (talk) 15:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Although I didn't watch the episode, (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't believe the "Titanic" on Dr. Who was the same one that sank in 1912. ~E 184.76.225.106 (talk) 03:32, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually the real Titanic gets a few mentions, but the Xmas special was about a giant spaceship that was modelled on the Titanic in appearance, and the crew and passengers were all in period (1912) costume, and it was headed for a collision. So it's relevant, and I've added it to the list page. Barsoomian (talk) 18:43, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Page views on the centenary day
This article was one of eleven Titanic-related articles linked from the Featured Article box on Wikipedia's Main Page on 15 April 2012, the centenary of the Titanic disaster. I thought editors here might be interested to know the level of usage the articles got on that day:


 * RMS Titanic - 430,012 page views
 * Sinking of the RMS Titanic cscr-featured.svg - 177,040
 * Titanic (1997 film) Symbol_support_vote.svg - 132,054
 * Passengers of the RMS Titanic - 38,273
 * RMS Carpathia - 33,952
 * Wreck of the RMS Titanic - 30,051
 * Lifeboats of the RMS Titanic - 13,270
 * List of films about the RMS Titanic - 10,226
 * Crew of the RMS Titanic - 9,541
 * RMS Titanic in popular culture - 8,418
 * Changes in safety practices following the RMS Titanic disaster - 4,095
 * Total page views for Featured box articles - 886,932

Well done to everyone who contributed to making Wikipedia's commemoration of the Titanic such a big success! Prioryman (talk) 23:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

W. Lord's sequel
Walter Lord wrote a sequel to his A Night to Remember titled The Night Lives On (1986); in which he expressed second thoughts about some of what he wrote in the previous work. See this reference by Michael Sragow, writer and editor for the Baltimore Sun,(etc.), from his review on Criterion website: "[Lord] revised some of his earlier judgments" and "wondered whether Lightoller had carried the chivalrous rule of women and children first too far, to women and children only."

I added this info to 'A Night to Remember, and after' section, but it would benefit from a rewrite.

Plot "summary" moved from article
Without an introduction describing its significance, the following extensive plot summary doesn't really belong in this article; perhaps this synopsis could be replaced by a description (?):

Moved from article:

The January 13th, 1971 episode of Night Gallery was a 3-story episode, the stories being Pamela's Voice, Lone Survivor and The Doll. The second Lone Survivor segment detailed an ocean liner far at sea sighting a drifting lifeboat with a woman in it. As they draw closer they see the badges on the boat reading 'Titanic', much to their astonishment. The ship's captain tells a subordinate to make a note in the ship's log that he himself will initial later due to its bizarre nature, stating that otherwise he might not be believed at a later date. They find it barnacle-covered and the passenger actually a man in women's clothing. In the ship infirmary the delirious man is questioned by the captain and the ship's doctor; the man states he was on the Titanic and it struck an iceberg, and he worked as a coal stoker. The captain asserts that he dressed in women's clothes to gain access to a lifeboat. The survivor sits up and asks what year it is, to which the doctor asks, "what year do you think it is?", survivor answering "1912". The doctor answers after a pregnant pause "No, its 1915. Try to get some more sleep. There'll be somebody with you at all times." Moments later on the bridge the captain confides with the doctor that he thinks the 'survivor' may have been placed deliberately adrift as some sort of sabotage device, citing the state of war. The two walk along and the camera pans with them, landing on a life preserver on the wall reading 'Lusitania'. The segment goes on with a similar survivor being picked up by the Andrea Doria, and a similar horrible fate befalling the vessel.[1] At the start of this segment of the program, the crewman steering the ship is seen wearing a cap with the lettering "WHITE STAR L" on its right side, the rest of the lettering being on the left side of the cap and not visible. Another crewman comes into view, his cap displaying the same lettering but not the left-hand side of his cap. White Star Line -- the only company this lettering could indicate -- would have been factually inaccurate, since the Lusitania was a Cunard Line ship, the White Star Line's chief rival. This segment of the episode is thought to have been inspired by the urban legend of one "Lucky" Frank Tower, a man who worked as a coal stoker on the Titanic, Empress of Ireland and finally the Lusitania, all three of which sank. No record of this man has been found in the histories of any of these ships and he is considered a fabrication or urban legend. The following Hulu link was used as reference [1]:

1. http://www.hulu.com/watch/12904/night-gallery-pamelas-voice-lone-survivor-and-the-doll#x-0,vepisode,1,0 Night Gallery - Pamela's Voice, Lone Survivor, The Doll

Pop video
The event is the basis for the video for the 1979 "Memphis Tennessee" pop single by British virtual electronic new wave pop group Silicon Teens. See: Bick, Emily, "Music That Time Forgot: Silicon Teens" in Plan B Magazine, Issue 18, February 2007, p.29. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:34, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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