Talk:To Sail Beyond the Sunset

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I know of an off-site review of this page at http://srehn.com/books/rh_tosailbeyondthesunset.html but I feel it would be dishonest for me to link to it because it's on my site.

If anybody else feels it's appropriate to put that link there, do so, but I won't.

...I think the idea that this is a metabook about Science Fiction bookwriting may be a misremembering of "Gharlane of Eddore"'s 1996 Usenet post about The_Number_of_the_Beast_(novel), archived at, which reads in part: "The point you missed was that what was happening in the foreground was NOT what the book was about; "THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST" is a lecture on the art and science of writing, superficially couched as fiction.  It's an instructional manual that Heinlein left behind for the people who could appreciate it, with a reading list and homework assignments."

Rewriting of events from "Time Enough for Love"
In Time Enough for Love, Lazarus Long's sexual relationship with his mother is limited to a single liason in the time period where he is acquainted with the family but his father is away (in the war?). However in Sail this is extended, Lazarus is still about when his father returns, and a mass orgy takes place involving several characters including Lazarus, both of his parents, one of his sisters, I can't remember if this is all. This apparent re-writing of events, and what the motivation behind it may be, put me off Heinlein slightly. Of course Lazarus could have censored his memoirs, but I'm not sure this really sits right. Rawling 22:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Given that the events depicted in "To Sail Beyond the Sunset" do not actually contradict the ones depicted in "Time Enough for Love", but recapitulate them from a different viewpoint and extend them by scenes not mentioned - or even hinted at - in the latter book, I don't think it can be called "rewriting". The added scenes of "Sunset" do not alter the meaning of the account in "Time Enough".


 * What saddens me about Heinlein's later books is that he succumbs with increasing frequency to Grumpy Old Man's "Kids these days! Get Off My Lawn!" Syndrome. While I know better than to ascribe the opinions expressed by his characters directly to Heinlein himself, certain trends can be observed over the course of his books. -- 89.55.121.54 21:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Plot Summary
I would greatly appreciate a plot summary for this book; it's been too long since I've read it to write one myself. Zakolantern 23:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Your wish is my command. Added a brief plot section.  Feel free to rewrite and sharpen, everyone.  Sir Rhosis 02:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

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" Pixel, the eponymous character of The Cat Who Walks Through Walls."
Tricky. Pixel may at times be referred to as The Cat Who Walks Through Walls but that is not his name; and the novel is not called Pixel or even The Wondrous Adventures of Pixel the Cat. So, no, not eponymous. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:956C:1C35:22BF:46F1 (talk) 09:02, 24 May 2023 (UTC)