Talk:Tome of Battle: The Book of Nine Swords

Original research
This article contains opinions and views not supported by citations, such as: The Book of Nine Swords introduces three new "Martial Adept" core classes (the Crusader, Swordsage and Warblade) and a system of "martial powers" for them to use, followed by the usual accompaniment of new skills and feats. The core and largest percentage of the book is the list of maneuvers and stances, which the martial adept character can use to enhance their power and damage similar to the way a magic-using character uses spells I have therefore added a cleaup template to address this issue. --Gavin Collins (talk) 16:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Do we really need a citation from a third party source on something as simple as to which chapter of the book takes up the most pages when a quick glance through the book itself confirms this? That just does not strike me as something that could be debated. Seems rather silly. Or are you looking for a notable third-party source that definitively states that a 3rd edition Dungeons and Dragons supplement typically included some new skills and feats? Does one need a footnote that confirms that the ocean is wet as well? 24.47.154.230 (talk) 20:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Influences section
Actually, this section made references to its "stated influences" - if these are mentioned, say in the book's introduction, maybe they should stay with a citation? 71.194.32.252 (talk) 16:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Reaction
The reaction section could also use some updating and cleanup. What happened to the follow-up books which were due out in 2008? Were they cancelled? Did they evolve into 4th edition? Furthermore, the connection between Tome of Battle, Star Wars Saga Edition and D&D 4th edition should be clearly explained. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Difficulty with Sources
I've been trying to research items like "inspirations for the book" and was not able to find anything due to WotC removing practically EVERYTHING related to 3.5e from their website. I basically had to pull all of my information from the book itself (more specifically, from a sidebar on page 6 of the book). Does anyone know of any website that still preserved either interviews with WotC staff regarding this book, or other sources of information?

As a sidenote, a number of the links from 3.5 sources are now broken due to the WotC site restructuring, such as references from the GA-status Libris Mortis. Remorseless Angel  &#9884;  14:56, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * If you have any old URLs for things from WotC's website, the Wayback Machine is your friend. 129.33.19.254 (talk) 18:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)