Talk:Tommy Page

Sexuality
I removed the category "LGBT singers" from the article. I am worried how reliable the sources are. Paul Lekakis said Page was gay. The Advocate doesn't mention his sexuality. NewNowNext uses "gay" as part of the headline but not content. I'm unsure how reliable GayStarNews is. Village Voice says he has a partner with three kids. Looks like gossip to me. --George Ho (talk) 23:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Support for that George. Govindaharihari (talk) 23:56, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Umm... may you please clarify, Govindaharihari? --George Ho (talk) 00:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I put the category and I agree with you. I think we'll discover this question soon...--88marcus (talk) 00:20, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Found Us Weekly, UPI, and Billboard via MSN saying that Charlie is his "husband". I wonder whether UPI, a highly reputable source, is a good source to use. --George Ho (talk) 03:48, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Weird; Billboard.com uses "partner". --George Ho (talk) 03:50, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * FotoPhest: Can you self-revert the category additions you made? We should respect Page's family, including his partner "Charlie", even when the person is deceased. --George Ho (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Why reverted now, if we know that he has a partner?? We can include him in a suicide category and can't include him in the LGBT category?? When this became disrespectful?--88marcus (talk) 05:06, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * We can't assume that Charlie is a male, can we? As said, That would assume Page's sexuality. "Charlie" is an androgynous name (though less common for females). Of course, if you disagree, maybe we can go to WP:BLPN instead about "Charlie" and then figure out together with other interventions which sources to pick. Can't we? George Ho (talk) 05:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC); edited. 05:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Found WP:CATEGRS, which discusses how to verify such categorization. If Page didn't come out while living, and no reliable sources verify his sexuality, then we can't categorize him. Using "husband" to just categorize him... well, "Charlie" qualifies as part of WP:BLP, isn't that right? George Ho (talk) 05:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that Charlie could be used for woman too. I'm from Brazil, and we don't have that name here. I think you're right...--88marcus (talk) 05:53, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh... no worries. <:-) You're from Brazil? Cool. George Ho (talk) 06:45, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Well, I am going to chime in. An obituary article mentioned Charlie as his husband. I would, personally, like to see another source mentioning this to consider it authoritative (because Page was clearly private about his family). --LibraryGurl (talk) 18:46, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Star-Ledger via Legacy.com. Also, here are names of their children. --George Ho (talk) 20:48, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

"BLP others"
@Rms125a: Hello. May you please add back BLP others, which describes living persons related to the deceased? I think you mistake it with BLP. --George Ho (talk) 04:49, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * George Ho: I looked here. I do not understand what "which describes living persons related to the deceased" means. Quis separabit?  05:01, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Apologies for confusion. I'll rephrase, Rms125a: for example, the deceased (Tommy Page) recently died, leaving behind his partner Charlie and three children. Recently, some sources assume that "Charlie" is Page's "husband". Let's assume that Page's partner Charlie is a living person and that their children are living. Also, there have been some low-level gossip about Page's sexuality, as discussed above. WP:BLPPRIVACY says that we must respect the privacy of Page's family. I added "BLP others" because the article contains info about Page's family (partner and children). Hope I cleared things up. --George Ho (talk) 05:16, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Moreover, Charlie (given name) is an androgynous given name. For example, Charlie Storwick is a woman, yet the name "Charlie" is less used for females. George Ho (talk) 05:18, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Is he born in 1970 or 1967?
The last time I came to this wiki page, it was 1970 but who changed it to 1967? Ken choo (talk) 06:47, 24 September 2018 (UTC)