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This page was speedily deleted yesterday, before I had a chance to properly write it to show the importance and notability of this club (my fault for not being wary of the SD criteria). Hopefully it is now clearer why this nightclub deserves an entry. Fences and windows (talk) 02:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The log that shows the above statements from Fences and windows. --Sdrtirs (talk) 10:41, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very slow to notice this, but this edit in December was off the mark, I think.

Every sentence/fact in the article is cited, so a general refimprove tag is not needed. If you have specific issues with the sourcing, please improve it where you can or note here on the talk page where it might be lacking. I think that notability is well established by the coverage in the mainstream press already cited in the article, so that tag is surely unnecessary. If you genuinely don't believe that this club is notable, please go to AfD rather than adding the tag back so that issue can be resolved.

I find the COI tag to be unwarranted. It asserted that "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject" - as the creator and only major contributor to this article, I have no connection to this club whatsoever; I have not even visited it and nor do I personally know anyone who has, and I certainly wasn't paid to write the article. I had simply heard of it and was interested in reading more on it, but when I looked on Wikipedia there was no article on it. I didn't intend to write a biased or promotional article, and I think I fairly reflected the sources I could find.

The page logs are linked to in the comment above - the article was indeed speedily deleted by User:PMDrive1061 as I did not add the sources I had to hand when I first hit "save", partly due to my browser being in the process of crashing at the time, but that cannot count against the article now, several years on and with reliable sources cited. It was the first completely new Wikipedia article I had written, and I was unfamiliar with the requirements to get past the gauntlet of the new page patrollers unscathed. I discussed the speedy deletion with that admin at the time, see User talk:PMDrive1061/Archive_2#Speedy_deletion and User talk:Fences and windows/Archive 1#Speedy deletion of Torture garden (fetish_club). Please don't presume COIs without evidence. You can consult people at WP:COIN if you still have doubts. Fences&Windows 18:41, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]