Talk:Total Nonstop Action Wrestling/Archive 1

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There's no need for a "recent happenings" section. It's almost guaranteed to be out of date most of the time. This is an encyclopedia, not a news site. Listing the current titleholders is enough. - Gwalla 03:20, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Could somebody who knows more about TNA wrestlers contribute some bios for them? There are a lot of red links in the Current Titleholders. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 20:56, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Move
This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Posted for discussion. No opposition given. Dragons flight 22:07, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Possible WikiProject
Currently there is a project for professional wrestling. Other subjects have sub-subjects and further. I suggest that we create a new Wikiproject: WikiProject TNA.

WP TNA would be dedicated to cleaning up and organizing the pages regarding TNA Wrestling as an organization, the TNA title belt pages, and the pages of many of the wrestlers (for example, AMW's wiki has little more than the fact that they are in TNA). It would also provide more detailed summaries for the monthly pay-per-views. --Kitch 18:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thats a great idea. I would be willing to help.--Racer38 11:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Done.I created it.lol. 18:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Not a member of the NWA
TNA was never a member of the NWA. it only acquired the rights to the titles. so it never withdrew from the NWA. cause it was never in the NWA.
 * BZZZZZZT!!!! Wrong answer! Game over!  Thank you for playing.  Until early 2004, they were known as "NWA: Total Nonstop Action".  In fact, for some reason, the official National Wrestling Alliance website  still links to the old NWA: TNA domain, www.nwatna.com, even though it goes to a squatter site now. --Kitch 12:55, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Kitch is right. The NWA President at the time even made an appearance on the third pay-per-view. McPhail 15:01, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Good news involving images
The entire TNA picture archive on TNApics.com has been made available officially for use in Wikipedia. I got the word personally from Marcus Cygy, the man who runs the site. I have been uploading these pictures previously on Fair Use rationale, but now that we have express permission, I have created a new Template for all TNA photos from the TNApics website, "TNA-photo".

TNA-photo

Lets get these articles illustrated! --Kitch 12:15, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I noticed that you recently created a TNA photo template. The template says that express permission is given to use these photos on Wikipedia. Unfortunately, this license seems to fall under Template:copyrighted which is no longer accepted for images. These images may fall under fair use using the promotional photo tag, so the template could be changed to a fair use one like Template:DisneyAttractionPoster or Template:TIME. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I modified the photo tag. Tell me what you think of it. --Kitch 18:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Whoa... great job! Thanks. --Jtalledo (talk) 18:45, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Can anyone find a picture of the iMPACT! Zone to add to TNA iMPACT! Zone, one had been on there previously but removed Aceboy 06:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Chris Candido Memorial Tournament
The article for TNA notes that Shelley and Waltman won the tournament itself, but fails to note that Waltman never showed up to claim his prize - a shot at the world tag team champions The Naturals. Should this be updated? BronzeWarrior 08:52, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead and added this information; hopefully no one objects. BronzeWarrior 10:38, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Disputed section
"The promotion is regarded as the closest, but still distant competitor to World Wrestling Entertainment. Despite this, some wrestling fans prefer TNA over WWE, citing TNA's focus on wrestling over storylines."

This section is npov and an example of weasel words. "Some wrestling fans" is not an acceptable phrasing. In addition, saying that TNA has a "focus on wrestling over storylines" is also subjective. McPhail 22:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Legit section. McPhail is a n00b.


 * The section is not legitimate. "The promotion is regarded as the closest, but still distant competitor to World Wrestling Entertainment". Regarded by who? How do you know what people regard the promotion was? Secondly, "citing TNA's focus on wrestling over storylines." How do you know why "they" prefer TNA to WWE? Moreover, this seem as clumsy attempt to paint TNA as a "wrestling company" and WWE as a "storyline company". I very much doubt that WWE would embrace this label, or has ever openly claimed to focus on storylines over wrestling. For this paragraph to stand as it is at present then you'd need to cite sources showing (a) that wrestling fans regard TNA as the closest competitor to WWE, (b) that they prefer TNA for the reasons stated and (c) that WWE is more storyline based than TNA. McPhail 09:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, I added the section to the lead. The blurb was originally added to the History section by Eclipse McMahon, but after I deleted it Eclipse McMahon reverted it citing "vandalism." After a subsequent discussion on Eclipse McMahon's talk page, Eclipse McMahon added a section which was clearly POV and also uncited, so to end the edit war I rewrote it and added it to the lead. I tried to sound as neutral as possible while trying to state facts, but I guess it still didn't come across as neutral. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:29, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

The owners of TNA Wrestling....
From what I've read, Panda Energy International & Jeff Jarrett own TNA. Jeff's father, Jerry, sold his ownership to Panda Energy, but Jeff hasn't. Also, I read somewhere that Dixie Carter, the President of TNA Entertainment LLC, has admitted that she ISN'T the owner of TNA Wrestling. So, that's why I made the changes in that small box below the TNA logo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.68.235 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 8 December 2005
 * Yep, supposedly she said that on an Internet radio show called "Monday Night Mayhem." Archives are supposedly available at Audiowrestling.com. It would be great if someone could listen to the show and make an appropriate citation. --Jtalledo (talk) 21:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I listened to the show and at one point, she says "I'm the President of the company, not the owner".


 * According to Steve Gerweck's site, Panda Energy (via Bob and Janice Carter) own the controlling stake in TNA Wrestling. Dixie has no ownership (perhaps she will through inheritance), but is only the President right now.  Jeff Jarrett still owns his minority stake in the company. Clint 07:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Title Changes, DQ, and Count Out
I have never seen a champion in TNA who has ever lost a title in TNA because count out or DQ. In fact, all of the matches that I have seen that have wrestlers going in-and- out of the ring for long periods of time or using weapons such as chairs, trash cans, tables, ect. have never ended in a DQ or count out, therefore I think we should remove that portion of the article from the top. -anonymous
 * D'Lo Brown and Apolo won the tag titles via DQ in April 2004 . The rule is admittedly inconsistently applied, but the same is true of the WWE "30 day rule", etc. McPhail 18:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Kid Kash and Lance Hoyt won the titles back by DQ as well... Clint 15:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It is known that the referees in TNA Wrestling are much more lenient than WWE referees as they allow more things. It takes something very illegal to end a match. Another well known idea in TNA Wrestling is that should a wrestler interfere in a match, the match will be a No Contest not a DQ finish.

TNA Specialty Matches
Would it be alright to add a TNA Specialty Match Section on the Main Wikipedia TNA Page. Ring of Honor has one and I think TNA should as well. They could add sections on Ultimate X, Six Sides of Steel, King of the Mountain, Barbed Wire Massacre, House of Fun etc. In each section they could describe the match, the history of the match and Wrestler's win/loss records in these matches which should include photos.

Just had to get that idea off of my mind.
 * There is already a Category. 88.107.200.124 19:51, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I think that a sections should be added to Wikipedia in one page so someone doesn't have to go through all of these links to get it

Fan Chants
On the ECW page, they have a section for fan chants. I had an idea to create something like that on the TNA page. Would anyone else be against this idea? Would anyone be for this idea? Either way I would like to know. fishhead2100 April 29, 2006 3:51AM (UTC)

Concerning the company infobox...
How will we know who owns the company? I mean, we know that Panda Energy International owns 71%, while Jeff Jarrett owns 29%, but no one figures to put THAT info in the infobox.
 * Do you have a source for those figures? I'm no longer certain that there are only two shareholders; Jerry Jarrett seems to have retained some sort of interest. McPhail 16:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, just check the page for Panda Energy International and you'll see the figures there.
 * Other Wikipedia articles are not suitable sources, per Citing sources. McPhail 23:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

TNA Video Game
I am a big supported of Nintendo and plan to get the Wii on the day it comes out, but I have seen no referances to the TNA video game coming out on Wii. Whoever put that part in should provide some evidence of that. TJ Spyke 22:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Please consult the link to IGN.com in the relevant article. McPhail 00:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

TNA Wrestling Ownership...
Shouldn't Panda Energy International and Jeff Jarrett be listed as the owners, since that's who owns TNA? As far as I know, Panda Energy International (via Robert & Janice Carter) is the majority (71%) owner of TNA, while Double J is the minority (29%) owner. I mean, PEI and JJ are the key people in TNA.
 * Panda Energy are shareholders; to the best if my knowledge, they have little to do with the day to day operation of TNA. I'm not entirely sure that the above percentages are spot on, as I think Jerry Jarrett might still have some shares as well. McPhail 18:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Dixie Carter is the only one from Panda Energy actually involved with TNA. She is their representative so to speak. As for Jerry Jarrett, I'm under the impression that he is no longer part owner. -- J Fred  19:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Jeff Jarrett
A question about this "Jeff Jarrett ... was unable to find work with the McMahons (allegedly because he blackmailed Vince McMahon for a large sum of money to wrestle a single match after his contract expired while he held the WWF Intercontinental Championship in 1999). [1]"

From what I have read he didn't blackmail the McMahons, he simply got the money that was owed to him (PPV, merchandise, etc) paid up front rather than waiting the months it usually takes, so I would hardly call this blackmail. This is reported on PWInsider.com www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=7575&p=1. What is everyone's opinion on this, is this still blackmail? Aceboy 06:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Chyna claimed in her book that Jarrett blackmailed McMahon, which is about as close to an official source as we're likely to get. McPhail 16:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

There have been other sources as well that claim that Jarrett demanded extra money to drop the title at No Mercy. TJ Spyke 23:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Jeff Jarrett would not have minded dropping the title to a guy who was qualified, most reports indicate that he did not want to drop the title to a girl, so he high balled the WWE. WWE could not have another incident like the Alundra Blayze/WWE Womens Championship/WCW again, so they accepted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.170.20.87 (talk • contribs)

I don't think it had anything to do with Chyna being a girl. Jarrett had no intention of signing with WWF again(hence the reason he didn't sign a new contract) and he knew Vince would not want him to take the title to WCW, that's why he blackmailed Vince and why Vince never employed him again(and Jarrett had to start his own promotion after WCW and WWA folded). TJ Spyke 19:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

TNA Xplosiom
There seems to be no mention of TNA Xplosion on this page, which was their first TV show. Does somebody know the history of the show, I am pretty sure it was used to sell the early weekly PPVs, so we can mention this important part of the company Aceboy 06:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

There's not much to mention since it is only a syndicated show(which from what i've heard is only available in Florida and maybe a few other areas). TJ Spyke 23:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * TNA Xplosion appears on The Wrestling Channel, so is broadbast in the UK and Ireland as well. Should also be noted that the international versions of iMPACT! are sometimes edited to contain Xplosion matches. I think Xplosion needs a mention. White43 16:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Proper Grammar
I think there should always be a dash (-) in anything involving an "X" in TNA Wrestling. I typed the reasons why in the TNA X Cup discussion page and I don't want to type it all again. Please just click on the TNA X Cup link and go to the discussion page to see why I think there should be a dash. Hopefully it won't all be deleted by somebody. I think you'll agree with me in my reasons.

iMPACT!
Hm... there seems to be a little too much detail on the TNA iMPACT! program in the business model section - it should be trimmed down since detailed info is in the article about the program. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

X Division Champion
Changed the current X Division champion from A.J. Styles back to Chris Sabin.

Wiki isn't a spoiler zone, and since the title change hasn't aired yet, it shouldn't be on the site.

Fight for the Right?
When the Fight for the Right Tournament is over, I think we should add it to the Tourney section. I feel that it's still too early as it just started.--Gruntyking117 19:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

TNA vs. WWE paragraph
I deleted that paragraph, as it was very poorly worded, and consisted mostly of speculation. Mr. Papaya 17:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

We should add a bit about how VKG is declaring war on DX and Vince Macmahon. Crazy Chainsaw
 * Why? It's just part of the characters gimmicks. We don't mention on the WWE page when DX "invade" WCW. TJ Spyke 03:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

It's V.K.M Dr. R.K.Z. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. R.K.Z (talk • contribs) 07:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I've decided to add these paragraphs (The Connecticut Incident) as I think they are very important as this has occurred to do with TNA in general. If you can add anything else, please do. 86.20.53.195 16:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * WWE's involvement is but a rumour, therefore, being of little importance. -- Aaru Bui  DII 16:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The Connecticut incident, however HAS happened and shouldn't of been removed. I've put it back in, only removed unnecessary bits of the article, or add necessary info. Do not remove all of the three paragraphs. 86.20.53.195 16:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's just a show that got cancelled. -- Aaru Bui  DII 17:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Somehow, I think people will be talking about it for a while longer than some wrestling things. Have you removed it yet? No. Because it is a event that happened in TNA that SHOULD be recognised. It's like the Montreal Incident. That was an event. It happened. It made history. So what? Anyway I feel it was an important event that occurred, that's why I added it. I've made my point. 86.20.53.195 17:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It shouldn't be in because any WWE involvement is just a RUMOR. Unless you have some proof WWE was responsible, then it's just a cancelled house show. TJ Spyke 00:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

New Deal in the UK
Announced yesterday - TNA are cancelling their contract with TWC and have reached a deal with another channel believed to be Bravo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.67.138.19 (talk) 19:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

Leaving NWA?
How about a cite for this claim? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.213.86.186 (talk) 07:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Leaving? They left TNA quite some time ago. TJ Spyke 08:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing it's to improve the quality of the article and not just for convincing. -- Aaru Bui  DII 11:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

About the NWA World Heavyweight & World Tag Team Championships...
Well, apparently, according to Gerweck.net, TNA will be losing the rights to the aforementioned titles within the next several months, instead of by 2014. In fact, here's a link to the story:

TNA losing their rights to the NWA titles and name? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.7.217.221 (talk) 01:33, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Yeah, that story is full of BS. TNA has the rights until 2014. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TJ Spyke (talk • contribs) 01:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

Either way, it doesn't matter as it concerns Wikipedia until they actually do lose the rights and it is officially announced on TNAWrestling.com or on Impact. B mg 9 1 6 Speak to Me 02:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well the sheets are pretty much confirming this information, TNA's official drop of the NWA world title could happen this Sunday but until something officially happens, page should stay the same. TonyFreakinAlmeida 15:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem with that is TNA don't plan to do any title drop. They want to give the impression that the NWA world title becomes the TNA Heavyweight Title like WCW did —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.56.16 (talk) 02:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Uh-huh, your source? TJ Spyke 03:02, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Shows what you know TJ. TNA lost the rights to the titles and had to hand them over after the PPV. Now TNA has to come up with some more titles or else!  Vermon  CaTaffy   8 
 * Shows you don't know how to read. My comment was from Saturday, the NWA didn't strip TNA until Sunday. TJ Spyke 02:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

TNA
For some reason an editor is trying to move TNA (disambiguation) to TNA, basically erasing the redirect. Despite me offering proof that this is the bigges use of TNA, I could use some help there. TJ Spyke 00:43, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Champion's Advantage
I just recently saw the Cage vs Joe match, when Cage tried to walk away and get a 10 count. The announcer noted that if he walked away he would maintain the championship. I think the main section should be edited to note that while the disqualification rule is different than most wrestling, the 10 count still gives the champion an advantage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.21.115 (talk) 15:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Criticism
Whoever wrote that criticism page did so without citing any sources nor having any structure. They couldn't even do it in complete sentences. I've removed the section. I know TNA has been under a bit of fire as of late, but I don't think it's time to make a section for Criticism yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ytoabn (talk • contribs) 20:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Entertainment?
I didnt realise TNA called themself Entertainment. I thought they were trying to be the opposite to WWE and Sports Entertainment. I would agree that TNA is Sports Entertainment, i dont watch TNA often but the fans ive asked say TNA doesnt refer to themselves as Sports Entertainment so i dont think wikipedia should either Don.-.J 19:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at the bottom of their website or at the end of their TV/PPV programs: "Copyright © 2006 TNA Entertainment, LLC.". TJ Spyke 19:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

TNA Tag & Heavyweight titles
What the heck is going on. TNA has only an X division championship. What is going on? What will TNA do with NWA taking back their titles? User: Vermon CaTaffy 8
 * The reports are that TNA ordered World Heavyweight and World Tag Team Titles last week, it's logical to assume they will introduce them this week on iMPACT. TJ Spyke 20:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Question:

Let's assume that NWA withdrew their titles prior to the Sacrifice PPV. Then would that mean that going into to Sacrifice, Christian Cage, since TNA was still recognizing him as their World Champion, be the actual first TNA World Champion, with Kurt Angle winning the belt from him to be the second title holder?

And with Team 3D, since TNA still recognizes them as Tag Team Champions, would that mean that that would be 7 different sets of tag belts (RAW, Smackdown, ECW, WCW, NWA, HUSTLE, and TNA) they have held? (21 time champs overall?).

I'm assuming all this to be the case, just making sure to be official.

Ohgltxg 20:55 14 May, 2007 (UTC)

New Titles
On TNA's website, they are promoting the unveiling of the new TNA World Heavyweight, TNA World Tag Team, and TNA X Division Championship belts on the "TNA Today" webcast (World Title on Tues. May 15, X and Tag Titles the next day).

Since TNA is coming out with these Championships, and calling them by the names listed above, could there be new articles written and title histories made for these titles?

Ohgltxg 21:42 14 May, 2007 (UTC)

New Champion
The new TNA Champion is Kurt Angle and that's really important to add! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.54.154.18 (talk) 00:57, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

Although, just a rumor now, the new TNA Championship belt may be introduced as vacant, and a King of the Mountain match will decide the holder. So, as of right now, Kurt Angle shouldn't be listed as the Champion, until we get official word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximus92 (talk • contribs) 13:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Even if Angle gets stripped, it doesn't change the fact that as of right now he IS the TNA World Champion. TJ Spyke

The rumor holds true, as I said, the title is vacant, and Angle is officially not the World Heavyweight Champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximus92 (talk • contribs) 02:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a rumor, the stripping happened on the iMPACT taping on Monday. Angle is still considered a former TNA Champion thogh. TJ Spyke 02:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * ANGLE ISN'T THE CHAMP. The title is vacant. Just becuase Angle runs around with it, doesn't mean he's champ. The King Of The Mountain match will determine the champ. --SteelersFan UK06 01:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Why are you replying to this old section? Angle was the champ when it was made, but we all know he was stripped of the title the next day at the iMPACT tapings. TJ Spyke 01:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * My apologies again Mr Spyke, it seems this is the second time this morning I have annoyed you. I was unaware that this discussion was no longer active, as the topic did not seem to be closed at the end of the discussion. My sincerest apologies for not checking the comment dates prior to my own entry. --SteelersFan UK06 02:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You haven't annoyed me, you just confused me. I was wondering why you were replying to comments made several weeks ago. TJ Spyke 02:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I replyed to the comment becuase the last thing noted in the discussion was that Angle was the champion when really he was only holding the belt. I thought that the discussion was unfinished as I forgot to check the date on the last edit. I think this discussion can be closed now, yes? --SteelersFan UK06 02:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Creative Team
The Creative team consists of Vince Russo Jim Cornette and Mike Tenay now, it should be edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.249.27.66 (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Source? TJ Spyke 00:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Four Sided Ring
There's no mention here of TNA's old four sided ring.....and yet I have video proof from an old match. Insane Clown Posse (Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope) -vs- Glenn Giberti (Yeah, Disco Inferno) and David Young (Fear of clowns, lol)
 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQtdAcjGWL4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.176.130 (talk) 07:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I know they used it, TNA shows clips too (like the promo for Slammiversary. TJ Spyke 07:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw one of those promos, and they showed Hulk Hogan on the TNA ramp.....any idea when that happened because I've never seen HH in TNA... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.176.130 (talk) 07:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sometime in 2003. Hogan was gonna be the focus of their first PPV, Victory Road (which was later pushed back to 2004), until Hogan injured his knee. TJ Spyke 07:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Man....they need to get ICP back....and Ultimate Warrior wants to wrestle? Yugh....last picture I saw of him he looked like a prune. O.o —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.176.130 (talk) 07:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
Serious vandalism here! Somebody keeps on screwing up the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkSword (talk • contribs) 21:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have reverted to the last good version of the page and given the user a Level 3 warning since they were cleary trying to vandalize the page. TJ Spyke 21:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

TNA was NEVER a NWA member
TNA Wrestling was NEVER a member of the National Wrestling Alliance, they were strictly business associates through a contract agreement. Bill Behrens of the National Wrestling Alliance and Jerry Jarrett have both confirmed this many times, stating TNA Wrestling did not pay membership dues at anytime. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TNAWrestling (talk • contribs) 16:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Right, well if you can source that last bit, then we'll believe you. Otherwise, the fact that the company was called NWA-TNA sort of implies that it was an NWA member. --SteelersFan UK06 21:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Jerry Jarrett’s book talks about J Sports & Entertainment was formed, and how Jeff Jarrett met with representatives of the NWA, and how they formed an association with the National Wrestling Alliance. The title “NWA:TNA” was dropped in October of 2004 when Panda purchased Jerry Jarrett’s 73% stock in the company. TNAWrestling 02:05, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You mean 2002. Panda didn't do anything about the ties with the NWA. Which page was this mentioned? -- Aaru Bui  DII 03:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

What?!?!?!?!?! TNA branched off NWA, thats why TNA had the NWA title until recently when they got their own title. Gameplaya 9:44 18 September 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.104.92 (talk) 01:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Business performance/Profit
I'd like to add a piece on TNA's business performance that I have sourced, any chance? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.66.184.45 (talk) 18:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

disambiguation?
When i searched for 'TNA', i ended up on this article, yet i was looking for other meanings of this abbreviation. It would be great if someone would insert a link to the TNA disambiguation page.

thanks, ~HKK —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

TNA Today
could someone please get rid of this line "TNA Today claims to be "the most viewed daily internet program in the world." Although they provide no proof, many believe it to be true as TNA Today is almost always on the Most Watched Videos list on YouTube" Just because it is on the most viewed list on youtube does not give prove they are right. Hell Not one episodes of TNA Today is on the list of most viewed videos on youtube. Even the whole Ms. Carolina things is higher then it and that is something new. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.212.119 (talk) 02:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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World Beer Drinking Championship
Since Genesis, Eric Young and Cowboy James Storm have been fighting over the title of World Beer Drinking Champion. Storm created the title and it first came into existence at Genesis when he defended it against Eric Young. Eric won the title then and on last night's edition of Impact with an official at hand, successfully defended this most prestigious title, and the ring announcer even said "Your winner and still Champion, Eric Young". Should this new gimmick championship be added to the table of other championships already in TNA Wrestling? I'm sure there are sources available on TNA's web site to support it's existence. TonyFreakinAlmeida 16:05, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * IMO, it's like the old Million Dollar Championship, it's just an unofficial belt and shouldn't be listed with the real belts. Maybe mention it in Young's and Storm's articles.  TJ   Spyke   23:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you TJ oh Lord. This title has quickly become the second most sought after championship title in TNA Wrestling and I think it's highly noteworthy that it was brought in for the undercarders to get over.  TV Title what?! TonyFreakinAlmeida 00:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

does any1 know where can get a pic of the belt. --124.180.242.8 (talk) 10:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Citing Weekly PPV buy rates
I asked for citation on the low PPV buy rates. I don't doubt that they were lower than WWE's, but I want to know specifically what the buy rates were for statistical reasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dstebbins (talk • contribs) 17:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think they've ever been released. TNA's always been a privately owned company, they'd only release them if the numbers they got were something to be really proud of or if they wanted to thump their chests. TonyFreakinAlmeida (talk) 00:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, then, I guess that sentence is getting deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.40.174.2 (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Match rules
I know that historically DQ's have resulted in title changes if there was a title on the line in the match. But I read results recently from a Montreal TNA house show where Christian won a title match against Angle by DQ but the title did not change hands. Should this be noted that they waived the traditional TNA match rule set for live events? Here is a link to results. It was also posted on PWInsider newsbit for the same show.TonyFreakinAlmeida(talk) 03:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It has been noted that the only reason the title did not change hand was due to a miscommunication among the staff and someone had actually forgotten the DQ rule. Therefore, the rule is still in effect. 192.76.82.90 (talk) 20:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep. Simple mistake. In the other events of the tour, Angle was the winner. Mshake3 (talk) 22:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's safe to say that TNA has changed the rules creatively. Johnny Devine just retained the X Division Title on iMPACT after getting DQ'ed against Homicide. TonyFreakinAlmeida (talk) 21:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Awesome Kong won the Women's Title on January 7th
The 'Current Champions' details should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.74.239.158 (talk) 04:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

TNA CROSS THE LINE
There is no mention of TNA'S new slogan- TNA Wrestling- Cross The Line, which replaced TNA- We Are Wrestling as the slogan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.2.45 (talk) 18:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

CUBeR64 - I have uploaded the new logo, feel free to use it for this article: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/TNA_NewLogo.PNG —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.6.157 (talk) 15:38, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

TNA Results
Should it be mentioned that WWE.com is posting the results for TNA on their website? After all, they're two competing companies, so I found it a bit strange that WWE is doing so. Mjack32 (talk) 06:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This is being discussed on WP:PW if you want to join in.  TJ   Spyke   06:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

TNA U
I realize the last TNA U page wasn't much, but I think it's a very important program that should be mentioned or have a real page again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.253.8 (talk) 04:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe a mention on this page, but I don't think it's notable enough to have a seperate article (see WP:N).  TJ   Spyke   17:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

The winners have been announced as the Washburn Chapter from Topeka, KS...should this be mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.253.8 (talk) 17:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Six Sides of Steel Championship?
The championship section currently lists a Six Sides of Steel Championship, though I haven't heard of this as a new title to be created by TNA. Is there a legitimate source for this? (Note that I haven't really been following TNA, so it's perfectly possible this is something TNA has publicly mentioned and I just missed it; I only bring this up because I can't find a single reference to it anywhere except this article.) Jeff Silvers (talk) 04:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Formation of the company section
I added a formation of the company section using citations from the DVD History of TNA: Year 1, because it is indeed pertinent to the history of TNA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dstebbins (talk • contribs) 23:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Celebrities
Should there be a note that A.J. Pierzynski was given a copy of the NWA:TNA X-Title as a thank you for what he did promotion the company on ESPN, FoxSportsNet and other media? --BeltFanDan (talk) 01:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * He was also given a six-sided "diamond ring" with TNA on it. As for notibility, have we mentioned similar antics with other athletes? Mshake3 (talk) 03:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Missing one on Uniqe Features
You forgot about World X Cup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ichozo (talk • contribs) 21:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

NEW WOMENS CHAMP
Shantelle Taylor is the new Womens Champ, so can someone change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.151.143 (talk) 19:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

We will add it once it has been aired--Numyht (talk) 15:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

TNA Parodies of WWE
I made a page called TNA Parodies of WWE but it redirects to here, can anyone fill me in on this? It worked fine yesterday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 19:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It is a unneeded page. There is no reason for it. Every company in the world makes fun of the WWE. It is a normal thing in the pro wrestling business. So it isn't notable to enough to need a page.-- Will C  20:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I disagree, TNA is notable for its parodies of WWE, and its the only major wrestling company besides WWE. It seems that a well-written page explaning the parodies is nesseccessary (sorry for the spelling i'm in a hurry) $$ChuckCoke$$ —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 20:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * How is it notable? TNA is just barely known by people. So most don't know of their parodies. Most don't know of Shark Boy. When you say Shark Boy people think of the stupid movie a few years back. And no offense it wasn't a greatly written page. It had unreliable references. it wasn't written correctly. Plus if the parodies are notable enough to place anywhere, they should go in the person who is doing them article i.e. Shark Boy's should go in his article.-- Will C  20:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Can somebody else jump in on this debate? I need some more opinions.


 * Yeah, someone else can get in on the debate. I wasn't even the one who made it a redirect. I was going to have it deleted until User:3bulletproof16 decided instead to make it a redirect. Ask User:Gavyn Sykes, he'll probably tell you the same as I did.-- Will C  21:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll do that. P.S Were you the one who deleted the similiarities to kane thing on the abyss page? No hard feelings that was a crappy section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 00:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe, I think it might have been me. There was no reason for that section in the first place because Abyss has been doing that gimmick since Kane and Mick Foley showed up in WWE. So there is no rip off there. Most promotions have a wrestler with a monster gimmick. So there really is no reason to be adding stuff like that in there since mankind was really ripped off by Kane in the first place just given a different mask and having a pyromaniac gimmick.-- Will C  00:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Gayvn agrees with you. :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 00:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * okay, and don't forget to sign with the four ~ .-- Will C  00:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

ya, i'm 12 and new to this, i always get annoying reminders for that on my page --ChuckCoke (talk) 01:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)ChuckCoke


 * Okay, well if you need any tips just come and ask me.-- Will C  01:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

k thanks, but i'm still itching to see if any1 else has to say anything about this so dont delete this section —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 01:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It isn't going to get deleted. It won't be for a while until it is archived.-- Will C  01:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

oh, i see —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 01:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Typo?
There is a glaring typographical error in the last sentence of the second paragraph on the page. It is "legitimate", not "legitametly".--Greymav (talk) 14:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Remove 'Cruiserweight' reference?
"TNA showcases Lucha Libre style Cruiserweight action under the X Division"

TNA has never stated any weight classification for the X Division, on the contrary they have specifically said it has NO weight limits, the tag-line being "it's not able weight limits; it's about no limits". Samoa Joe, a 260Lbs man, is also a former champion. Claiming the division is for those under the Cruiserweight classification is clearly only references due to the WWE previously having a title of the same name. I think it should be removed.


 * It says nothing about a weight limit in that sentence. It is about style, you know high flying abilities.-- Will C  20:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Suicide?
Wouldn't the 'Who IS Suicide' note worthy since its been aired at least once. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.202.131.204 (talk) 20:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Not sure how noteworthy it is as a promo, but as the longest running comeback/promo I think it's winning something. Grelnar (talk) 01:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Change of Opening theme
Opening theme has changed recently. Anyone have song name/artist info?--Grelnar (talk) 12:20, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Tour of Germany/Austria/Switzerland
I noticed that we mention both tours of the United Kingdom in the "Expansion" section, so I was wondering if we should also add that TNA Wrestling will be debuting in Eastern Europe in September with six live events, four in Germany, one in Austria, and one in Switzerland? TNAFan09 (talk) 20:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source? If so, I don't see why not.  TJ   Spyke   20:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Is Mick Foley announcing TNA Wrestling‘s “First iMPACT!“ Tour on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8DXnughA24&eurl=http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=36276&p=1&feature=player_embedded) and also an official press release to German wrestling site BSWW.de, and tickets being sold at German ticketmaster Eventim.de? Are they reliable sources? TNAFan09 (talk) 20:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * YouTube, depends on if it is TNA's official channel or just a fan video. I don't know how reliable that German site is.  TJ   Spyke   20:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It is not a fan video, it’s Mick Foley announcing the tour.

Here is the tour lineup:

09-25-09 in Nuremberg, Germany at The Arena Nürnberger Versicherung 09-26-09 in Chemnitz, Germany at The Eissportzentrum Chemnitz 09-27-09 in Linz, Austria at The Intersport Arena 09-29-09 in Dortmund, Germany at The Westfalenhalle 09-30-09 in Hannover, Germany at The AWD Hall 10-02-09 in Münchenstein, Switzerland at The St. Jakobshalle TNAFan09 (talk) 20:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * By "fan video", I meant one uploaded by a fan. TNA does have an official YouTube channel. Where did you get that video from? I don't think it would be allowed though since TNA didn't upload it and I doubt they would release that into the public domain.  TJ   Spyke   21:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

tna addicts
is this still in exsistnce i havent been able to find any episodes past 2008 but its still in the article speaking of this is the bill and dougie thing in anyway worth mentioning (Just Wondering) – 78.148.69.132 (talk) 01:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * They discontinued that months ago.-- Will C  01:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Can this image be put on the TNA article?


Would it be alright to insert this image somewhere on the page? It is the intro video that is at the start of every TNA production ever since they went HD in October. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conor-A-Dowds (talk • contribs) 15:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Animated GIF's are rarely used on Wikipedia (they take too long to load for people with slower connections and can be a general problem). It doesn't really add anything to the article, so I would say no.  TJ   Spyke   15:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

TNA Ownership
There's a good article here about TNA's ownership: http://www.cygy.com/2009/08/tna-wrestling-ownership-timeline.html

We should somehow incorporate some of this information onto the page. Canamerican (talk) 19:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

TNA Sold
Jeff Jarrett has sold his TNA shares to Bob Carter: http://www.cygy.com/2009/08/bob-carter-purchases-jeff-jarretts-tna.html 70.68.139.248 (talk) 04:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, since the website is currently offline, the article cannot be checked for reliability. Besides, if Double J's stake had been sold, there would have been some announcement made about it. In other words, it's complete BULLS#IT. 67.173.117.222 (talk) 19:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No, not bullshit IP. Since TNA is privately owned, they do not have to announce when shares are bought or sold. People and companies buy/sell shares in companies all the time without announcing it. You also provide no source for Jarrett owning 22% of TNA.  TJ   Spyke   21:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, TJ, your ONLY source for Carter & Panda Energy completely owning TNA is down, therefore rendering that source unreliable at least until the site is back up. And, if anything, there would have at least been SOME mention of it in wrestling news, which there WASN'T. Besides, IF it was true, more than ONE wrestling news site would be reporting it. Besides the fact that ONE site reporting it wouldn't make it reliable. Aside from the fact of the question of Cygy's reliability. So, for now, your tidbit can only be taken as a rumor. And, until your rumor is confirmed, there's no reason to remove the piece of info about Double J still owning 28%. 98.193.77.134 (talk) 02:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no source that Jarrett owns 28% of TNA, so there no reason to have a unsouced claim. He may or may not still have a minority share in TNA, but no source he owns 28%.  TJ   Spyke   17:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, according to some sources I've read, after Panda acquired 72% of TNA, Double J bought his father's stake. Well, simple math tells us that 100 - 72 = 28, therefore Double J would own 28% of TNA. And, technically, your tidbit of Panda completely owning TNA is an unsourced claim, since the website it's coming from is down at the moment. 67.173.117.222 (talk) 18:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The website being temporarily down does NOT mean it is untrue. There is no reliable source for how much Panda Energy owns. Hell, even if there is a source for them owning 72% that does not mean Jeff owns 28% (other people can own small amounts too). A source being down does not mean it needs to be removed, that is what is for.   TJ   Spyke   18:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, here's a link to a Facebook page about TNA's history:Talk Wrestling Online: TNA Ownership - A Timeline. According to that article, Panda bought 72% of TNA from the Jarretts. Jeff then bought his father, Jerry's, remaning 28% stake in the company. Now, NOWHERE in that timeline does it mention ANYTHING about Panda acquiring Jeff's stake, so that must mean that Double J still owns 28% of the company. If you want, I can use that page as a reference to Double J still owning some of TNA. 67.173.117.222 (talk) 23:19, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * A random persons Facebook page is not a reliable source.  TJ   Spyke   23:27, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, technically, neither is a website that's currently down. And, for the fact that it's only ONE website. It would have to reported by more than one site for the information to be verifiable.67.173.117.222 (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * UPDATE:Well, apparently, the source for Carter buying the rest of Jarrett's stake is NO MORE. Tried going to the weblink and the article is no longer there. So, in other words, there is NO RELIABLE SOURCE for Robert Carter owning all of TNA. In other words, your link is NO GOOD anymore! 67.173.117.222 (talk) 02:28, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The source was still reliable, and Internet Archive takes care of the deadlink.  TJ   Spyke   22:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The keyword here is was. It's no longer reliable because that article is GONE! And, I tried Internet Archive with that link and NOTHING shows up. So, once again:In other words, your link is NO GOOD anymore! So, please, try to get that through your thick skull this time. 67.173.117.222 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC).
 * First, stop attacking editors or you will be blocked. Second, see Linkrot. Just because a link goes dead does NOT mean it becomes unreliable or that it should be deleted.  TJ   Spyke   21:09, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The link would still be reliable if it was still in existence. But since it is not, any information it covers has to be removed if a replacement can not be found.-- Will C  21:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'm sorry for engaging in personal attacks against editors. I never should have done that & I apologize. BUT, the point I was trying to make is that technically, if a link does go down, it DOES become unreliable, because there's no way to verify the information in the link anymore & there's no longer exists any credible reason to retain the link, therefore it should be deleted. So, TJ, you are wrong on both counts. 67.173.117.222 (talk) 01:58, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Knockouts Championship is not Vacant!!!
Seriously, i have changed it back to ODB about 3 times now, but people keep changing it back to Vacant, I am aware that Mick foley is holding on to the title till No Surrender, but the TNA website still lists ODB as Champ and i think we should go with that source.--205.122.107.14 (talk) 16:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there have been no changes in the last week except for vandalism. The pay per view is in the next 24 hours so it will have to stay as is. I agree with you though - the title was held up and not vacated. Podgy Stuffn (talk) 11:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

World Elite
I put this here because I am assuming many TNA-smart wikipedia users come across this page. Can someone please make a seperate page for the world elite. world elite currently redirects to Eric Young. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IsaKazimi (talk • contribs) 06:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not notable enough at this time.-- Will C  22:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say they are as notable as the MEM...no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IsaKazimi (talk • contribs) 05:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

MEM lasted for a year, World Elite have lasted for two to three months.-- Will C  11:07, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IsaKazimi (talk • contribs)

Championships
I noticed that the TNA Legends Championship was called the "TNA Global Championhip". Is There a reason for this? In the meantime, I'm changing it to Legends. 99.50.127.187 (talk) 05:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * They renamed it on Impact!.-- Will C  06:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Except it seems to be nothing more than Eric Young referring to it as that. TNA still calls it the Legends Championship, and the fact that 95% of TNA's shows are on US soil (which means his storyline threat is meaningless) means it likely won't last long. This seems to be like when Lance Storm "renamed" the WCW United States Championship as the WCW Canadian Championship (and "renaming" the Cruiserweight and Hardcore titles too), or when Bradshaw renamed the WWE Hardcore Championship as the WWE Texas Hardcore Championship. In other words, it's an unofficial renaming. The title is still officially the TNA Legends Championship.  TJ   Spyke   15:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with TJ. Note Lance Storm's renaming of numerous titles during his reigns.-- Unquestionable Truth -- 20:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

On TNAWrestling.com's roster page, check out the championship roll call.

They have officially renamed the title to the Global Championship.

Vjmlhds 21:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * So? WCW did the same thing when Storm "renamed" the belt, or when a nWo wrestler held the "nWo World Heavyweight Championship". If TNA continues calling it that after Young loses it, then it can be agreed to be a real change.  TJ   Spyke   21:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Except WCW never called the WCW title the nWo title- only the nWo did. Graphics/website always said WCW. I can't remember of they did change it for Storm, but the fact is if the company calls it that, then it's official. They can call their titles whatever they want and change them every week if they wish- when you start a wrestling company feel free to do the same. --208.38.59.163 (talk) 21:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * When Storm held the titles, WCW DID call them what he did, but they stopped once he lost the titles. Doesn't make it a official name change.  TJ   Spyke   22:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's pretty much the dictionary definition of an official name change. They officially changed it then they officially changed it back.  What does it take to make it an official title change, your personal approval? An executive order from the President of the United States? --208.38.59.163 (talk) 00:06, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * TJ, TNA have clearly tried to show as much as they can that the title has been renamed. Even having Nash take the title and say it is no longer the Legends Title, that it is dead, and now it is just the Global Title. It doesn't matter what WCW did, this is today and TNA. TNA have renamed it, so we reflect that, not try to see future events.-- Will C  02:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Second Largest?
Is there a reference for this, i would of thought the japanese promotions were larger —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewdavies (talk • contribs) 02:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * TNA has it's TV show shown all over the world and its PPV's shown all over the world, neither of which is true for any Japanese promotion. Some of them are big, but I don't think they are bigger than TNA.  TJ   Spyke   02:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably would be best to remove it anyway. It seems more like an opinion, rather than a fact.-- Will C  03:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I was thinking along those lines as well. Also what makes a promotion the "second biggest" because in terms of crowd numbers TNA isnt second--Matthewdavies (talk) 04:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Under that logic the NCAA football is bigger than the NFL because more total people attend NCAA football games. It's your OPINION that it should be based on crowds. If you want to talk about the amount of people who see the event, it's again TNA. More people see TNA than any Japanese promotion.  TJ   Spyke   22:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I would argue that. Japanense promotions gather thousands at their shows plus millions see them via dvds, ppvs, etc. That is just one varible. Would be best to remove, until a reliable source is presented as such. I would say TNA is the second largest, but I got no proof of that.-- Will C  23:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think perhaps the best judge is revenue made, and i dont know what the numbers are for that --Matthewdavies (talk) 23:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I would be skeptical that "millions" see the DVDs and PPVs (first, the PPV's air only in Japan. Same for DVDs, anyone outside of Japan would have to import them). I do agree that the wording should at least be changed (maybe back to "second largest in North America", like it used to be). As for revenue, we will never know since I think WWE is the only publically traded wrestling company. TNA is a private company, which means they do not have to disclose their financial records.  TJ   Spyke   23:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Hogan
Without turning this into a edit war i think the paragraph should be included. Hogan is perhaps the only wrestler known by the mainstream public and is head and shoulders above any of the names you've mentioned. It has been lauded as a major deal by both TNA management and wrestling pundits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewdavies (talk • contribs) 23:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes his signing has gotten a lot of hype, but we don't know if it will actually be important in the history of the company. Maybe 1 or 2 sentences, but I don't see the need for a whole paragraph (yet alone an entire section).  TJ   Spyke   00:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What about puting him in the celeb section? I looks like he'll be taking on a non wrestling job (and he is a pretty big star) and we can expand his section if anything meaningful comes out of it. --Matthewdavies (talk) 01:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Hogan and January 4th Impact
Both deserve a mention due to it being referred to as the "biggest night in TNA history" and the introduction of some of the biggest stars in the business either returning or debuting —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daddycool1989 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

TNA Article Name
Is TNA Called TNA Wrestling LLC Or TNA Entertainment LLC ''' Kreyg Talk'''
 * Why?-- Will C  06:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The corporate name is (as the article says) TNA Entertainment LLC. The promotions name though is Total Nonstop Action Wrestling.  TJ   Spyke   21:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protection For Total Nonstop Action Wrestling article
this article needs some protection because constantly I seeing random IP's changeing things like putting WWE owns TNA and that TNA is a brand of WWE and now im seeing they are changeing the owners and putting vince mcmahon is the owner of tna ''' Kreyg Talk''' 15:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I just requested and got it protected. For future reference though, you can request protection yourself at Requests for page protection.  TJ   Spyke   15:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

TNA Monday January 4th
The article says March 8th will be the first live monday edition of iMPACT, but as anyone that has been watching TNA before Monday January 4th knows it was Monday January 4th —Preceding unsigned comment added by Planbsk8erb (talk • contribs) 02:21, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

How Big Does TNA needs To be To get the page TNA to redirect to just the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling Page
I was wondering how big do they need to be Iceman247 (talk) 15:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The acronym TNA would have to in everyway make people think wrestling right off the bat. So pretty big.-- Will C  18:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, you got your wish! Searching for the acronym 'TNA' now brings you straight to this article. Yay! Banandar123 23:26, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Check again, still a disambiguity.-- Will C  06:24, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * But when I just search for TNA instead of typing out the URL, it takes me straight to the page. Maybe it has something to do with internet cookies or something, I don't know.Banandar123 02:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

"Primarily a wrestling business"?
TNA's business focus is mainly on professional wrestling


 * I strongly disagree with this line. TNA is a wrestling promotion. To say the company is primarily a wrestling business would mean it is a large part, but there are significant smaller parts involved in the company.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 03:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What else do they do that is not involved in wrestling in any way?-- Will C  05:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with WillC what else would TNA be involved with  iCEMAN  247   22:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

TNA is also pretty famous as a retirement home for retired WCW and WWF guys. Mick Foley, for example, retired from WWE and now collects a paycheck (IE social security check) from TNA. The Nasty Boys are also a recent addition to this practice. TNA is kind enough to let these old wrestlers put together matches on TV every so often. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.135.242.14 (talk) 18:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Hornswoggle?
as i recall hornswoggle is still in wwe and therefore is not the tna champion. can someone change it cause i'm afraid i might mess it up. thank you. 75.52.120.106 (talk) 04:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It was vandalism.-- Will C  06:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

.98
Should we mention the rating for TNA's last Monday Night show? It seems pretty notable because it was so profoundly bad, even worse than the usual Thursday rating, and it shows that fans are reacting harshly to the current (read: terrible) product and overuse of Hogan and Flair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.135.242.14 (talk) 18:15, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No. We are not a news site, and last night was just a regular Impact. We don't report every time something else gets low rating.  TJ   Spyke   20:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Also they got a .8 for this past week. Considering the trend, it's not worth it.71.30.92.50 (talk) 22:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Matt Morgan
Should there be a footnote about why he is holding a Tag Title by himself? --198.189.185.107 (talk) 02:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Broadhead the CFO? Not the CEO?
The 'Key People' section of the TNA page lists Dean Broadhead as the CEO. Isn't he the CFO, though? I couldn't find any reliable information on him, so I'm not completely sure. But I know I've heard him mentioned as the CFO a few times on other sites. Just thought I'd point that out.

I'm kinda new to Wikipedia so I'm not even sure if this warrants its own page. Feel free to delete it if necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Banandar123 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

'Controversy' section
Is the 'Controversy' section needed? It seems like someone put it there just to put down the company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Banandar123 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it's a good idea to have it in the article. TNA uses edgy storylines, and their controversies are definitely a real part of the business. I don't see it as putting down the company; rather, it helps define many of the ongoing themes in TNA.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 13:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Over the years, TNA Wrestling has vowed to be different to all other televised professional wrestling companies. One of the promised methods was to intentionally be more controversial than World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), and the former World Championship Wrestling (WCW) and Extreme Championship Wrestling. However, a lot of their stunts failed to generate major interest at first because their broadcasts were on pay-per-view, so their stunts were less shocking. And awareness and veiwership had been low during the first few years. When TNA managed to secure a weekly television slot, they toned down the content. But in spite of this, the company has caused a lot of controversy over the years. Name Controversy

TNA is an acronym for 'Total Non-stop Action'. However, within media, the term TNA is a reference to Tits 'n' Ass. This term means intentionally using sex to boost the appeal of a television show. Early shows featured women dancing in cages throughout the entire show.

This acronym section is definitely a key part of the company's history, and I feel it should stay

Re-WCW Controversy

When World Championship Wrestling first launched Monday Night Nitro, it used a number of techniques to compete with the World Wrestling Federation. TNA has been accused heavily of using these same techniques to re-create the former WCW. They are accused of over-using former WWE stars (particularly ones that were featured in WCW), slandering the WWE product and repeating old WWE and WCW storylines. Obsession with Racial Groupings and Slandering the Troops

Very many TNA storylines have involved using issues of race and the war in Iraq as central driving points.

Wrestlers who are not of American origin tend to form lasting alliances with other non-Americans, typically those from their own country. For example, the British Invasion features 2 men from England, and used to include a Welshman. British Invasion were part of World Elite, a faction of anti-Americans, which include Canadians, Mexicans, Japanese and Arabian. Taylor Wilde and Sarita formed a tag team based on their Canadian ethnicity, as Hamada and Awesome Kong for their Japanese connections. Two of the longest running stables have been Team Canada and LAX, both of which have been anti-American factions.

Some villianous wrestlers would usually insult the war efforts of the American military to aggrevate fans. They are almost always confronted by another wrestler(s) who support their efforts. An entire feud can be centred around this premise alone. It is not uncommon for wrestlers to defend the military once, and then criticise it on another occasion.

The slandering of the troops is a significant source of heat for certain wrestlers, and I think it is useful for it to be placed in the page.

Flag-burning Incident

For a time, LAX (Latin American Exchange) were a heel faction of Hispanic-Americans which had grown tired of the U.S., accusing all caucasians of being racist. One stunt featured them trying to burn the American flag in the middle of the ring. In the end, they did not complete the stunt as they had been prevented. However, they fact that they nearly did caused controvesy. Campaign groups demanded that the people in the LAX faction be removed from the company. Konnan quit, but the others were simply removed from television. When they returned, LAX were now a tag team of friendly Mexicans who loved America as much as their own country. Shawn Hernandez claimed that the attempted stunt ruined his relationship with his own father.

The part about Hernandez and his father is not very important here, but it did attract a lot of attention, and was very controversial
 * If there's going to be a controversy section, it has to be well cited. Right now it reads like a bad essay of what some editor dislikes about the company.Horrorshowj (talk) 12:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a shame. A lot of this is good information that gives a fuller picture of what TNA is about. Since the onus is put on someone to put up controversial and critical remarks on TNA with good references, I think this material will never be back on. Editors are too acerbic in general to stand for this "controversy" because many will interpret it too negatively. Also, editors who enjoy TNA will be inclined to remove it by citing the NPOV policy. Overall, I know the material is doomed from ever coming back on.


 * Tssk, Tsk. This is one of the parts about Wikipedia that makes me unhappy :-(
 * -- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 05:11, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Features?
Does anyone know where the 'Features' section of the TNA article went? I know that whoever initially implemented it didn't cite any of the information included, but I thought it included some useful information and, with some quick research, could be sourced easily. I just couldn't seem to find it to revert it.

I recently added another section that alsoused the title'Features', but the section I'm talking about was one that included some things like "X-Division", "Knockouts Division", "Ring Shape", "Locations", etc...

I think I know what you can do. Too bad you didn't leave your talk page address. Anyway, if you go to the View History button of the TNA article, you can spot a part that says "Revision History Search". If you click on that and input the time frame you think the article may have contained this material before it was removed, you can search for "X-division" "Features" or "Ring Shape" and you will be able to know what revisions of this page had them.

Let me know if you need some help.

-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 05:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I gave it a shot and I found |an edit that may be the one you are talking about.

Dixie Carter
The article near the end has a link for the Dixie Carter involved with TNA directing to the recently late Celebrity of Desiging Women fame, is there a 2nd article for the TNA one it can be redirected to?63.163.213.249 (talk) 02:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Championships section
Why is there so much info on the current champions? I have seen the articles on each championship and I can see editors are working their hardest to make them up to date. Why do we need editors hitting up this page AND the championship pages AND the List of current TNA champions every time there is a single title change? It might help feed someone's ego to know that they are editing a page on TNA, but in reality, these edits could be better directed to the championship pages themselves.

Please share your thoughts with me on this one. -- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 17:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Christopher Daniels
Please stop putting Christopher Daniels' picture on the article. He is but one of many who had came through TNA Wrestling and went on to greener pastures. Thank You. Vjmlhds 21:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Christopher Daniels is a prime example of a wrestler who spent his career doing both TNA and ROH. Daniels is a prominent figure in ROH, and served frequently during his TNA career. I understand that he is not currently a TNA wrestler. That's fine, the point is, his photo is used to illustrate the fact that TNA does not prohibit its wrestlers from being on the independent circuit.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 04:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Possibility of a WWII(2nd Wrestling War XD)
Is TNA and WWE considering going toe0toe. The Monady thing TNA tried failed and I've seen signs on TNA of the "pissing on WWE thing" yet WWE don't respond to none of dissis TNA be doing.--76.94.173.73 (talk) 19:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I know you might be a little late but that picture is about 2 years old Totalaero (talk) 17:14, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

List of Current Champions
Gather round everyone. There is a very important matter at hand:
 * Should trivial info that is easily outdated and already linked to in another article be put into a table on Total Nonstop Action? Hmmm...

Ok, I'm being facetious.

The issue is regarding the list of current TNA champions. I want to remind everyone that there is already a separate page on this. See List of current champions in TNA Wrestling. For some reason, editors have swarmed this page with constant updates on the current TNA champions, treating Wikipedia like some trivia center with the latest wrestling updates. I brought this issue up to an editor, who |first reverted my edit saying there was no article to place this under, but now wants this to become an issue of |public discussion.

I am not saying that I am right. That's up to any passerbys of this discussion to decide. I think I | hit this editor too fast with my deletion instead of weening him off and now he's in some emotional response that he can't let go of.

This takes me back to the emotional outbursts and insanity I had to deal with when I put the WWE's change to PG on the World Wrestling Entertainment page.

What I need people to do is check the history of this page, see the links, and view the page, and tell us honestly if they feel that the List of Current Champions is worth being updated in two locations when there is one dedicated directly for that purpose.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 07:35, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * List of current TNA champions shouldn't even exist nor should list of current WWE champions, neither are long enough for FL on their own. The only reason list of current WWE champions is FL is because it was passed 3 years ago and was the last article of a topic. Currently all lists must be at least 10 items long to become an FL. If anything that should be merged into this article since that section has not grown large enough to justify a split. And if this is to be discussed, this also effects the WWE, etc company articles. It should be taken to WT:PW.-- Will C  02:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Wrestlinglover, I know you want to prove a point here, but just think about the bind you are putting yourself into. You have been trying to brainstorm rules why it should be on the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling page, and all of them are inconsistent. I know you saw other editors put updates on these wrestlers, and you are looking for a way to engage other editors to defend your point. But for what? What do you really want here? This is not a discussion about how significant the info is. This is about a redundant section that you want to hold onto for sentimental reasons.


 * Now, I don't know what FL means or where this 10 item long requirement is coming from, but the people who put together the List of current champions in TNA Wrestling were never bound by this rule before. I have also seen many small wrestling articles, and to my knowledge, there is no cut-off regarding how large a section should be to merit its own article. And even you can't say with an honest heart that List of current champions in TNA Wrestling is too small to be its own page. It has images, links, plenty of PPV/storyline info. It is not a small article at all. Sc r ew ba ll 23  talk 16:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Listen kid, I've been on here for a while, expanded alot of articles to Good Article, Featured List, or Featured Article. Believe me when I say that article is too short for FL and is borderline list cruft in my honest opinion. At one point I was working on a list of current champions, see List of current champions in Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. I redirected it because it was too short and for the above reasons. The only reason I am keeping this list in the article is that no consensus was ever reached for it to be removed. Editors can't just go around and remove large bits of text with a valid reason or an agreement. This removal doesn't only effect this article it would effect the WWE article as well.-- Will C  16:33, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I can see I hit a soft spot with you. (Why does anyone have to be so emotionally-vested in this nonsense? And since when did I ask for "credentials"? Seriously, we've all expanded articles here, so let's get beyond that.) First and foremost, as a person who has seen editors self-destruct on wikipedia before, I feel obligated to let you know you're not fooling anyone, not even yourself.


 * Now, the page on the list of TNA champions is there, and it has existed without argument for some time now. Your argument that it must be a Featured List to exist as a standalone article is complete nonsense. A list is a list. Where did FL come in? The fact of the matter is, editors can remove text with a valid reason, which I have provided. You are simply being stubborn and using every tactic you possibly can to save your ego (there needs to be consensus to change an article, this will completely change the WikiProject, its too short, its too crufty to be on wikipedia) Seriously, grow up.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 07:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Screwball you don't have a valid reason for its removal you just want it to be removed cause you said it shouldn't be there well sorry my friend but that's not a good enough reason for it's removal. And secondly this discussion should be moved to WT:PW as this could effect a whole list of pages that have the champions listed on there pages and as such any discussion should take place wikiproject wide.-- Steam   Iron  03:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't kid yourself. I gave logical reasons. I want to see the same from you.-- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 05:25, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Your point is WP:OSE. That is not a valid argument. What I and apparently Dcheagle are trying to do is gather a group decision and form a consensus on format rather than just doing. Democracy really.-- Will C  05:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what possessed you to cite that policy. I am not an advocate for WP:OSE. I don't mean to be condescending, but reading through that page, the WP:OSE argument is centered on whether a cruft article (a reality show participant or a TV series episode) should get its own article based on the fact that other such articles exist. -- Sc r ew ba ll 23 talk 18:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have already opened a discussion at WT:PW regarding the subject for the very same reason.-- Will C  05:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I will not continue any discussion here as i said before it needs to be done WT:PW.-- Steam   Iron  18:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)