Talk:Train surfing

Unreferenced claim
Is there anything to support the claim that "Practitioners are usually teenage boys"? Surely "teenagers" would be more appropriate and less sexist. --Marks87 16:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Apparently not. According to the article (British part) a girl was injured because of Train surfing, so that would prove it's not only "teenage boys". The men interviewed in the Danish documentary also seem adolescent more than teenagers. Personally a friend of mine (girl) is practicing train surfing, so I can see absolutely no comparision between "teenage boys" and the realistic fact, that girls too are involved in the sport. It's quite sad some medias come up with such false facts to provoke and put on a negative spotlight on a certain group of the population. --Karmus 21:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've only met one female train surfer in my life, and she herself claims that girls are heavily underrepresented. There are, indeed, surprisingly many girls who practice this sport, but the boy-girl ratio is still close to 90-10. I have no written sources of this whatsoever, but at least it's my impresson of it. --Konaya (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Extra reference
there were two references to the danish trainsurfer that died, so i deleted one of them 84.238.10.100 16:49, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

The Trainrider
There should be more information about the 'Trainrider' here. Not sure about his initials, but he suffered from Leukemia disease, and since he had nothing to lose, he started 'train surfing' and made some video's. I'm pretty sure he deserves a spot in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gc.mike (talk • contribs) 03:46, 12 June 2007‎
 * Here you are: Added link to Trainrider article (in danish) Xrr2 (talk) 13:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

POV tag
Because.. just look at it. Riddled with POV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.21.100 (talk) 11:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see any POV problems. 71.63.105.172 (talk) 08:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh, is it a sport at all? 64.26.98.90 (talk) 20:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Footnote
I don't really know if this has anything to do with train surfing, but on the wagons of one of Stockholm's peripheral train systems ("Roslagsbanan"), there's a two-step ladder close to the ends of the wagon; one step is slightly below the station platform level, and the other one is slightly above. Attached to every train, right next to the ladder, is a sign that says "Please refrain from riding on the lower step". Could this be a subtle notion, a quiet prayer that "if you absolutely have to ride our train, would you be so kind as to ride the upper step, so that we won't have to stop all traffic looking for your severed achilles tendons?" --Konaya (talk) 14:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Weasel words
And not even particularly subtle ones. What does "The media says that..." mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.241.83.99 (talk) 18:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Gang
The "Gang" of Frankfurter Trainriders doesn't exist. There are just the Trainrider himself and a friend of him. No one else. greetings from germany 84.181.126.240 (talk) 14:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Trainrider
I would doubt that Germany allows trainsurfing if you have a valid ticket. Do we have a source for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.233.94.81 (talk) 17:00, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't get it...
Are people really serious about trying to turn this into some sort of artform/sport? I honestly just view it as kids being stupid, and trying to be cheap and not pay for the subway. Plus, I can only see people pulling this off in certain cities where the trains don't go underground in order for it to not be dangerous. I realize the danger aspect is apart of the appeal but c'mon now...--108.41.40.42 (talk) 04:27, 10 March 2011 (UTC)


 * This page is not to talk about the topic, but to talk about how to improve the article; see: Talk:Train_surfing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.199.96.193 (talk) 20:39, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * To that point, it's currently unclear whether this article is about the practice of riding on the outside of a train out of necessity due to economic reasons (inability to pay a ticket, overcrowded trains, lack of other transportation infrastructure), or whether it is about the practice of riding on the outside of a train as a form of thrill-seeking. The two are not the same, but this article vacillates between them. It's like combining an article about famine with one about intermittent fasting; yes, they're both about people who are hungry, but for very different reasons. 97.102.30.205 (talk) 22:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Lots of bad links
fix them, remove them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.35.32.21 (talk) 06:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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Candide article start
The start of this article candidly introduces Train surfing as a neutral act while that does not reflect the reality of facts.

The reality is the exact opposite:
 * According to Le Point, this act is very dangerous, generate accidents and kills their actors (including teenager): http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/train-surfing-un-adolescent-se-tue-sur-un-metro-parisien-25-10-2017-2167320_23.php
 * According to Le Point, this act is exceptional, one person has been killed by electricity in 2015, and one british has also be hurt http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/train-surfing-un-adolescent-se-tue-sur-un-metro-parisien-25-10-2017-2167320_23.php
 * the wording used by the RATP to qualify this act is «inconsidérée et extrêmement dangereuse, pouvant entraîner la mort». (unconsidered and extremely dangerous, which can generate death).http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/train-surfing-un-adolescent-se-tue-sur-un-metro-parisien-25-10-2017-2167320_23.php
 * A 14 years old teenager also suicided with such act: http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/le-train-surfing-le-defi-meurtrier-sur-facebook-07-06-2015-1934301_23.php
 * This dangerous game also made victims in Russia and in India: http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/le-train-surfing-le-defi-meurtrier-sur-facebook-07-06-2015-1934301_23.php
 * Here a statement from the gendarmes about communication on this topic: "Il faut peser le pour et le contre: d'un côté il est nécessaire de sensibiliser les gens sur un tel danger, de l'autre il faut veiller à ne pas faire la pub sur un phénomène que l'on ne peut quantifier" "Both sides have to be considered: in one hand it is necesary to sensibilise people about such a danger, on the other side one should make caution to not make advertising on an unquantifiable phenomenon" https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/le-train-surfing-relance-la-polemique-des-defis-facebook_1687492.html
 * An act punished by one year in jail and 15 000 euros fine, http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/le-train-surfing-cette-pratique-inconsciente-qui-a-tue-sur-le-metro-a-paris-25-10-2017-7354173.php
 * One 17 years old British person has been killed by such practice: http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/le-train-surfing-cette-pratique-inconsciente-qui-a-tue-sur-le-metro-a-paris-25-10-2017-7354173.php
 * According to a British tourist, it is terrifing: http://www.linternaute.com/actualite/societe/1415469-train-surfing-les-photos-choc-d-une-pratique-illegale-et-dangereuse/
 * the goal of this act is narcissism (read https://www.allodocteurs.fr/se-soigner/urgences/premiers-secours/le-train-surfing-un-jeu-dangereux_21478.html )
 * The 25000V electricity is also quite dangerous: it might lead to carbonization, 60% burning, burn of internal organs including heart illness, https://www.allodocteurs.fr/se-soigner/urgences/premiers-secours/le-train-surfing-un-jeu-dangereux_21478.html
 * It is a suicide game for borderline people or people with a pédo-psychiatric issue https://www.allodocteurs.fr/se-soigner/urgences/premiers-secours/le-train-surfing-un-jeu-dangereux_21478.html

Hope someone update the start of the wikipedia article taking into account this reality adn that if british teenagers want to suicide they do t in their island rather than on the continent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.199.96.193 (talk) 20:37, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Some english text also provide opposite views; read: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/13/trainsurfing-condemned-mindless-cctv-accrington-police_n_1272891.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.199.96.193 (talk) 20:43, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Micromorts?
Micromorts? Either vandalism or not completely explained. 89.67.244.199 (talk) 20:49, 26 February 2024 (UTC)