Talk:Transportation in Edmonton

POV on roadway infrastructure maintenance section
Roadway infrastructure maintenance

Despite extensive investment in new arterial and bypass routes, pre-existing roadway infrastructure has recently been allowed to degrade to a state that many believe to be a hazard to public safety. Caution should used when driving in Edmonton. The city's streets present a collection of potholes, cracks, chasms, poor signage, and unsafe road design that is unrivalled in Western Canada.

I think this section is quite biased. Wording like "many believe" is a weasel word and should be avoided. Are there any objective sources that can verify that our infrastructure shortcomings are unrivalled in Western Canada? It seems there is some concerted effort to complain about Edmonton pothole problems across various Wikipedia pages. Similar sections on infrastructure problems (potholes) have recently appeared on the Stephen Mandel and Edmonton. Citing the column piece in the Edmonton Sun by Kerry Diotte ( Edmonton falls into a pothole ) does not count as an objective source.

Many cities in colder climates suffer from pothole problems in the spring. Maybe there are more of them in Edmonton after the 2006/2007 winter than is usual. But I do not believe Edmonton is that much different from other northern cities and towns in terms of infrastructure shortcomings that it warrants describing it as a hazard to public safety. --Leendert 18:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

"Un-Edmontonian" Contributions
It seems that there is considerable resistance to any material on these pages that is construed as being "Un-Edmontonian". The city should be described accurately on these pages, "warts and all". Anyone who feels that the current infrastructure problems are exaggerated either drives a 4WD SUV/truck, or has not driven in nearby places such as Sherwood Park and St. Albert. Potholes in the spring are normal. A complete disintegration of much of the road infrastructure is not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bloom Thorn (talk • contribs) 14:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC).


 * I agree that Edmonton roads have many potholes this (2007) spring. Maybe you can write this in an objective manner without unsubstantiated claims (e.g. do not claim that these conditions are unrivalled in Western Canada without any sources). Instead of writing "many believe" without any citations, maybe you can state that local newspapers have received a number of complaint letters from citizens regarding road maintenance (and provide a link to such an article). Does the city or do any newspapers have any statistics of complaints or potholes filled that would point to the spring of 2007 being  particularly problematic? Also, is Edmonton unusually bad compared to, say, Winnipeg or Saskatoon? Or is it the norm for many Canadian cities with similar weather conditions to suffer similar road surface deterioration in spring? --Leendert 03:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

ETS outside of Edmonton
"...but cannot operate outside the city of Edmonton proper." Doesn't ETS currently provide Bus Service to Fort Saskatchewan and Spruce Grove?--RAult (talk) 07:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)