Talk:Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study

Out of date
The page is out of date, it refers to 2007 in the future tense.

147.188.244.18 (talk) 18:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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The charts are very misleading, either list all countries or only the top 10. Frigo 05:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

"Third"
Why is the TIMSS often called the "Third" International Mathematics and Science Study? For example, both the chart of the 1997 and the chart for the 2003 study in this article are labeled the "Third International Math and Science Study." This is not explained in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.184.57 (talk) 03:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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TIMSS was the third in a series of assessments of the mathematics and science knowledge and skills of students around the world. After the TIMSS 1995 data collection, there was collective agreement that the study should continue on a 4-year cycle, so that countries could follow trends in student achievement. Following the naming conventions of prior studies, the follow up study should have been called the Fourth International Mathematics and Science Study (FIMSS), and the subsequent study should have been called the Fifth International Mathematics and Science Study (also FIMSS). To avoid confusion among educators and policymakers, and to build on the name recognition of the 1995 study, it was decided to keep the TIMSS moniker by changing "Third" to "Trends." Thus, TIMSS is now known as the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study. Each subsequent data collection is differentiated by the year of data collection (e.g., TIMSS 1999, TIMSS 2003, and TIMSS 2007).

Pagonzales (talk) 01:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The History of TIMSS
- Directly taken from the International Association for the Evaluation of Educational Achievement (IEA) Website

First International Mathematics Study (FIMS)

Twelve countries participated in this First International Mathematics Study (FIMS). They collected data in 1964 on two populations-13-year-olds and students at the pre-university year. The study identified several different factors influencing both the learning and teaching of mathematics.

Second International Mathematics Study (SIMS)

During 1980–81, IEA conducted the Second International Mathematics Study (SIMS), with 20 countries participating, and in 1983–84 carried out the Second International Science Study (SISS), with 24 countries. Both studies tested three populations of students. This strategy of carrying out a repeated study over an interval of several years provided important information on changes in standard of achievement in different countries, especially in the case of science.

Third International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS)

In 1995, IEA completed data collection for the Third International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS). Forty-five countries participated in TIMSS, with more than half a million students encompassing five grades tested.

The subsequent data collection for TIMSS (at present known as Trends in Mathematics and Science Study) took place in 1999 and 2003.

--MathChique (talk) 15:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)MathChique

=1997 TIMSS??=

TIMSS was not conducted in 1997. It was first done in 1995, then every 4 years, meaning 1999, 2003, and 2007. This chart is either made up if the citations are correct, or has the wrong date. Someone is retarded.

150.250.191.244 (talk) 18:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)somekidtryingtowritearesearchpaper


 * I deleted it. The data appears to be wrong. Naur (talk) 13:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

1995 Scores
I am having trouble verifing the scores listed in the tables for the year 1995. According to the National Council for Educational Statistics reports for trends in math and science, the 1995 numbers differ considerably. Additionally, there does not appear to be a source given for the data in the "Top 10 countries by subject and year" tables. In the "older results" section, the 1995 data source is given as an issue of The Economist. However, I have been unable to verify that as a source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.222.154.100 (talk) 00:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

This article could be much improved with more sources.
I have some Source Lists to Share with Other Wikipedians on my user subpages that would be helpful for updating this article. The subpages on IQ and human intelligence are reasonably complete now, always to be updated more, and the subpages on race and human genetics will be updated a lot more over the next few months. For this particular article, I will keep digging up sources on international education comparisons, and I encourage you to do the same and to suggest those for additions to the citation lists. Feel free to refer to those to edit this article and articles on related topics. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 16:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Recent scores
Can anyone publish the recent statistics and make a map? I'll see what I can do myself but time is limited. Thanks! —Ynhockey (Talk) 09:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I have added the scores myself but someone should make a map. Also I suggest adding the entire list of countries (at least for the latest set, like with HDI stats) if anyone has time to do it. —Ynhockey (Talk) 09:49, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Why top European counties?
Why European counties are given a special ranking category? Either we do the whole list of all countries or we do top 10. The more useful info is ranking for the 4th grade and the 12th grade. Those can show the trend from lower grade to higher grade levels. If there is no objection, I will remove European ranking and add top 10 for those two grades instead. Z22 (talk) 16:34, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Apparently there is no data for 12th grade. So I should say that we remove the European ranking and add the 4th grade rankings similar to what we currently have for 8th grade. Z22 (talk) 16:52, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Math
Perception of student in Mathematics subject 49.151.250.111 (talk) 13:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)