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On 17 November 2020, it was proposed that this article be moved to Tropical Storm Linfa (2020). The result of the discussion was not moved.

Impact not solely from Linfa, restructure to a flood article[edit]

Merged, as consensus says most of the deaths and damage occurred with the Central Vietnam floods.~ Destroyeraa🌀 13:19, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is entirely inaccurate in stating all of the impact to be from Linfa. It appears to be from a prolonged monsoon event punctuated by multiple tropical cyclones. ReliefWeb considers everything since September as a single, prolonged event. A report today from ASEAN Coordinating Centre for Humanitarian Assistance states the event as a "combination of weather systems (Tropical Storms LINFA and NANGKA, and the Inter Tropical Convergence Zone combined with cold air)". TD Ofel later produced additional rainfall that exacerbated the event. Extreme rainfall reports of 1,500 to 2,000 mm are from the period of October 5-10, before Linfa made landfall. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 22:07, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We have 2020 Central Vietnam floods, which mentions this, and the other storms. Considering Linfa was so short-lived (and its impacts limited largely to Vietnam), perhaps merge this with the flood article? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:51, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't know that article existed. Yeah, just merge/redirect this and Nangka. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 22:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I merged this, but I wouldn't start a merge discussion for Nangka. It had other impacts outside of Vietnam. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:12, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From 10/10 to 10/13 (the storm Linfa affects and made landfall), the area of Thừa Thiên Huế was dumped by much rain. The official measured that the average amount of rainfall per day in Huế was 719mm/24 hours; it means it dumped 2100 mm of precipitation in 3 days. ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:d200:135c:28e0:19e0:52ac:31ef (talk • contribs)

References

^ http://phongchongthientai.mard.gov.vn/Pages/bao-cao-nhanh-cong-tac-truc-ban-pctt-ngay-14-10-2020.aspx

The given source says the >2,000 mm measurements were from October 5 to 13 ("Từ 19h/05/10 đến 19h/13/10"), not solely during Linfa. It doesn't specify which day the 719mm/24hr was measured, it just compares it to the record from 1999 ("cường suất mưa lớn nhất tại Thừa Thiên Huế lên tới 719mm/ngày tại Thượng Nhật (TT.Huế); mưa lớn nhất năm 1999 là 1.384mm/24h."). ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 01:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Cyclonebiskit. Though deaths did occur outside of Vietnam, the deaths may not have been due to Nangka, and it is very hard to differentiate a TC death from a flood death. So why not turn this into a flood article - 2020 Central Vietnam floods. Since deaths in other countries were rather low compared to Vietnam, I suggest keep the Vietnam and merge Linfa. Nangka can stay. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 12:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The storm's area of deaths was largely limited to just Vietnam. The floods are mostly from Linfa. So yes, merge it. CyclonicStormYutu (talk) 15:17, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 17 November 2020[edit]

Tropical Storm Linfa (2020) → Draft:Tropical Storm Linfa (2020) – The article is not quite ready to be published yet. Moving it to Draft namespace will allow editors to fix up the article before publishing. Qwerty325 (talk) 18:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This page appears to be about a notable topic. See also WP:IMPERFECT. --Izno (talk) 03:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Moved per discussion at Qwerty's talk page. --Izno (talk) 03:13, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As November 9, storm number 6 (Linfa) and it's remain caused 15,469 billion VND.

[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:D200:135C:B132:CF40:87B2:EE41 (talk) 17:01, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Retirement, should start article?[edit]

Apparently, Vietnam requested the retirement of this article. Should the article created about this? Mario Jump 83! 11:04, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it was created. Mario Jump 83! 01:05, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Name accuracy improvement[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 14:03, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Storm Linfa → Tropical Storm Linfa (2020) – More accurate name as there are multiple tropical storms named Linfa. Chong Yi Lam (talk) 13:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Chong Yi Lam: The general view is that because the name Linfa was retired by the WMO because of this system, that this instance of the name Linfa is the most significant tropical storm named Linfa and the most common instance of it.Jason Rees (talk) 13:41, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the name Linfa was retired so, no need moved in Tropical Storm Linfa (2020). HurricaneEdgar 14:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose This storm is the last time this name will be used.Gummycow ^moo _milk 17:45, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Rainfall accuracy[edit]

My concerns from October 2020 remain unaddressed with the recreation of this article. It asserts that the >2,000 mm totals were solely from Linfa when multiple sources indicate it to be from Linfa and the broader flood event. ReliefWeb considers everything since September as a single, prolonged event. A report today from ASEAN Coordinating Centre for Humanitarian Assistance states the event as a "combination of weather systems (Tropical Storms LINFA and NANGKA, and the Inter Tropical Convergence Zone combined with cold air)". TD Ofel later produced additional rainfall that exacerbated the event. Extreme rainfall reports of 1,500 to 2,000 mm are from the period of October 5-10, before Linfa made landfall. Further evidence from a Vietnamese Gov source: >2,000 mm measurements were from October 5 to 13 ("Từ 19h/05/10 đến 19h/13/10"), not solely during Linfa. It doesn't specify which day the 719mm/24hr was measured, it just compares it to the record from 1999 ("cường suất mưa lớn nhất tại Thừa Thiên Huế lên tới 719mm/ngày tại Thượng Nhật (TT.Huế); mưa lớn nhất năm 1999 là 1.384mm/24h."). ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 01:39, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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