Talk:Twelve-step Suite

Names of Steps X-XII
I've noticed the names for Steps X-XII have been added and changed at least twice in the last few days. What's the source for these names or are they fan conjecture? Someone please cite a reliable source (preferably the booklet/artwork itself would be best) for this information! Otherwise, it'll be removed. Thanks!MarkyMarc413 (talk) 13:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I was wonding the same thing, they should probably be removed.  black ngold29  14:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Someone else has put up new titles for Steps X-XII... is there any source for THESE titles now, or are these still conjecture? At this point, I'd only accept actual artwork depicting the lyrics, displaying the actual titles for the last three steps. Unless someone can post a source for those names on the main article or on the discussion page, I'll be taking them down.MarkyMarc413 (talk) 08:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Primary Sources Implied
Since everybody knows that this entire article is primary sourced (meaning from people who listen to the songs themselves), why are things marked with citation needed tags? Are they really necessary? --J miester25 (talk) 18:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

AfD for individual AA suite song articles
I've nominated The Root of All Evil (song), The Glass Prison, This Dying Soul and The Shattered Fortress for deletion as the individual songs do not have enough reliable information on them to justify their own articles. All necessary information can be given in one moderately-sized article. See the deletion discussion here. Una LagunaTalk 17:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Songs lenght
I'v noticed that, for some reason, the lenght of section I, IV, VI, VII & X are 0:00. Also, the time doesn't sum up to the time written on top of each song. Can someone check this out and write the real duration of each section? Myself I don't know where to find reliable sources for these infos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Papapavvv (talk • contribs) 02:21, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Whoever added the lengths of each part didn't actually add their lengths - the times relate to the time in the song where each part starts (hence the 0:00). I will correct this to show the duration of each part, as the current format is unclear. Una LagunaTalk 10:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Composition credits
Rather than saying "all music composed by Dream Theater", shouldn't it use the credits from each respective album? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duncan3dc (talk • contribs) 21:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)