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This needs some work[edit]

. . . and I'll be back in a few days to do it. Xdenizen 05:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted a fake link inisus —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Text moved to talk page.[edit]

With this edit, I moved the following text from the article page to this talk page:

What Pat Llewellyn said is absolutely true. Clarissa essentially came to hate working with Jennifer and their paths rarely crossed outside of their business interest revolving around the series. In fact, Clarissa rarely spends much time with any one person and has over the years offended and lost nearly every friend she has ever had. Clarissa has a habit of getting angry over nothing and calling people stupid and this has not endeared her to many.
Part of the problem with Clarissa and Jennifer was that Jennifer was a drinker right up to the time of her death and this came to bother Clarissa a lot as she is unable to drink. Also, Jennifer was far more popular with people than Clarissa largely due to Clarissa's magnum temper and inappropriate attitude towards many and this often rankled with Clarissa.
It is true she felt bad about Jennifer's passing and in recent years has changed her story, but during their period of working together and the initial years afterwards she told many that knew her (including this writer) that she would have gladly ditched working with Jennifer after the first series if she could have found another income.
Clarissa is also guilty of not letting the truth get in the way of a good story. Her auto-bio, though entertaining, is filled with inconsistencies and at least to this writer's certain knowledge some downright mistruths.
This is not to say that Jennifer was always easy to deal with. She was fun and full of humor and as a result was largely popular with casual acquaintances and a huge hit at parties which I witnessed for myself several times. Further to that effect, she was inordinately fond of gay people (and actually lived with her gay uncle) and as a result treated them (and me) with certain deference. But privately and behind the scenes she could be an incredible handful and was often fired from various jobs (as was Clarissa who has been fired nearly as many times as Jennifer was).
After the first book based on the show was published, Jennifer could not come up with any new recipes so it was agreed that Pat Llewellyn’s relative would provide them and Jennifer would pay her. Jennifer eventually paid her for one book, but never did pay for the other two which rankled with Pat.
Llewellyn, although having been closer to Jennifer, also grew frustrated with her because once Jennifer finally did have money, she was rather miserly with it - never even going so far as to buy even one round of drinks for the crews she worked with (this cannot be said about Clarissa who is very loose with her money and very giving to those friends she manages to hang onto).
As Jennifer had said about herself: "I have often been without money or a place to live, but I have never been without an invitation to a party or a glass of champagne".

Problems with the text on the article page include:

The tone is inappropriate for WP
Allegations of "hate" should be referenced
Much of the text is related to personalities (and not the show itself). If any of the text is verifiable, it should be moved to pages related to the people involved.

HWV258 06:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Was this sullen rant written by one of that pair of ugly dikes who appeared in the doco about Jennifer? Who complained about her being ‘bossy’? Schoolgirl sniping.

The very appeal of this show was the engaging amateurishness of a duo of grotesque females who could nonetheless cook up a storm. If they truly detested each other, then they were in fact peerless professionals. Not a whit of animosity emerged on screen.

According to newspapers the two had never met before the show. Clarissa was of a substantial intellect and had been a barrister (the youngest in UK history?) during the 70s and 80s. While Jennifer disliked Clarissa, the dislike was not reciprocated. Jennifer was a professional cook for most of her life, while Clarissa had only turned to semi professional cooking as a means of income after leaving the UK Bar.220.240.228.205 (talk) 11:34, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Over-linking[edit]

Hi. With these edits, exactly what I feared would happen, has happened. Sorry, but this article suffers from over-linking. If anyone feels the need to remove such links as "goose", "stuffing", "kidneys", "white white", "cabbage", "dill", "Ireland", "Jamaica", "Devilled" (a red link entered twice), "peaches", and "cream" (for Heaven's sake), etc.—they will have my full support. HWV258 23:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed many of these links; we should give readers the chance to see links on the less-known subjects rather than dictionary-word foods. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Americanism[edit]

The Archbishop of Westminster does not have "aides", much less senior aides. These American expressions should be avoided.101.98.175.68 (talk) 02:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Was?[edit]

Whenever I look up an old US television series on Wikipedia, the lede usually says something like ‘Lotsalaffs is a sitcom starring Hannah Hilarity and Billy Boffo…’ etc etc even if it went off-air in 1975 and both stars are dead or worse.

Why the use of the present tense? I guess this is because episodes are re-broadcast and/or available for rent or purchase, so the show remains in-effect current. Nu?

So why does TFL rate the past tense? I have the VHS cassettes right here in front of me. Look here. See? 124.150.79.224 (talk) 08:54, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]