Talk:Ungava brown bear

trinomial
Is there a reliable source for the trinomial Ursus arctos ungavaesis? If so, when was it named? The references I can access don't use it, although Ursus ungavensis (note spelling) is a synonym for Urus maritimus, the polar bear. --Animalparty-- (talk) 04:22, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I used the trinomial given on the requested article page for mammals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Animals/Article_requests#Mammals The name also comes up in the North American subspecies section of the brown bear article, but neither place has a reference for it.  I actually have no idea where this trinomial originated because it doesn't appear in any references.  In fact, the references I used in the article don't give a name to the subspecies at all. Stripey the crab (talk) 16:00, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is certainly not a reliable source, and anything on it should be viewed with suspicion unless validated by sources that don't change from day to day. Until reliable sources substantiate or clarify the subspecies status, I will remove it to avoid perpetuating any falsehoods or misleading claims.--Animalparty-- (talk) 20:34, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

"Persecution by fur trappers"
The discussion of this bear's extinction mentions "persecution by fur trappers" as potentially part of the reason they are extinct. I can't be certain what is meant by "persecution" in this case, and I think it would be better to clarify that statement in the article. My main guesses are that trappers might kill bears to prevent them from eating other animals, or to reduce danger for the trappers themselves. It could also mean that bears were worth a lot and trappers may have taken too many, or some other thing. But my point is that after reading the article I don't quite understand this part. TooManyFingers (talk) 18:02, 25 September 2020 (UTC)