Talk:Uniforms of the Royal Navy

A fact from Uniforms of the Royal Navy appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 July 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that, prior to the introduction of regulation seamen's uniforms in the Royal Navy, the commanding officer of HMS Harlequin once paid for his entire crew to dress as harlequins?

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No Pics![edit]

C'mon sailors of Britain, upload some pics!!! Ryan4314 (talk) 21:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno if it helps guys, but there are some images of Royal Navy crewman during the 80's here. You guys probably know more about what type of uniform they're wearing than me. Ryan4314 (talk) 23:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Full dress[edit]

There's no mention of the full dress most often seen on members of the Royal Family at state occasions - double-breasted coat with tails, high collar and shoulder boards; sword on belt; full-size riband/stars/medals. Opera hat (talk) 22:51, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Multi Terrain Pattern[edit]

Where does MTP fit in? With stable belt etc. Its not listed. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk 13:12, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's part of number 5 dress, along with overalls, chefs whites etc.

I'll add information about it once I have chance.JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 17:06, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gaia Octavia Agrippa, it is mentioned in the Junior ratings section. --Dreddmoto (talk) 02:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Wei-Wei Rig"?[edit]

What is the source for the statement that "the practice of wearing white trousers with naval uniforms [was] popularly known as “Wei-Wei Rig” "? I have not been able to find anything to corroborate this.

Aisleway (talk) 03:10, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's on the archived RN website linked at the end of the paragraph. Here is the specific subpage: [1]. oknazevad (talk) 17:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Photographs[edit]

The photographs at the bottom of the article could be arranged better. That means those that appear from the section titled Defunct uniforms, onwards.

The image with the caption Royal Navy Lieutenant wearing the former No. 4 AWD dress. could be moved to the Defunct uniforms section. --Dreddmoto (talk) 03:02, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Naval mess undress[edit]

Naval Mess Undress with a blue waistcoat has long been abandoned by the Royal Navy as far as I know. The old Mess Dress that I wore was represented by a stiff starched shirt with a detachable collar but modern Mess Dress is an amalgamation (some say bastardisation) of the old Mess Dress & Undress by abandonment of the stiff shirt, blue waistcoat and the miniature medal ribbons pin. 2A00:23C7:609:F101:55AD:B5D7:6830:B64F (talk) 14:38, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mess undress (mess jacket with blue waistcoat) is still a thing-it’s in the current (2020) dress regulations, and is known as 2B dress (2BW being the tropical equivalent).

”Ball dress” is now no longer a thing, and hasn’t been for several years, at least in name.

The difference between mess dress; which is also known as 2A dress (2AW is the tropical equivalent), and mess undress is now as regards the waistcoat-the white is worn with mess dress, the blue in undress. A black or ship’s own cummerbund may also be worn in 2B and 2BW dress.

All shirts with mess dress and undress are now (if worn correctly), the soft, turn-down collar, marcella-fronted versions-the one exception being for Admirals, who wear a stiff fronted shirt and detachable collar in mess dress, but can if they so wish wear a soft Marcella fronted one.

And of course, gold-laced trousers and the undress tailcoat remain optional items for wear in both mess dress and mess undress for all officers of the rank of Captain and above.

Also senior ratings and warrant officers continue to have their own version of mess undress (worn only with cummerbund and not a waistcoat if worn correctly. JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 22:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]