Talk:United Federation of Planets

Placement of "fictional" in lede
Hi, I felt it was odd that the first sentence currently reads as follows: "In the Star Trek universe, the United Federation of Planets (UFP) is the fictional interstellar government that sent Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, and the crew ..." etc.

This feels like a strange place for the qualifier "fictional." The Federation isn't a fictional within the Star Trek universe; within the fictional Star Trek universe, the Federation is a very real government. I went looking for similar articles to see if this was a normal placement. The Starfleet article is similarly worded ("Starfleet is a fictional organization in the Star Trek media franchise."). Still, I suspect that the Section_31_(Star_Trek) page ("Section 31, in the fictional universe of Star Trek, is an autonomous intelligence and defense organization"), provides the least ambiguity.

I know it's not likely to cause anyone any serious confusion, even if English isn't their native language. Still, I'm making the change so that people can see how it looks and consider how they feel about it. I'm sure it's ultimately fine either way. Emoprog (talk) 21:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Flag in infobox
Should we note in the infobox that the image there is only the UFP's flag from a specific time period and/or should we change the image to the new UFP flag shown in Discovery Season 3? Prcc27 (talk) 21:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

The Federation flag
So,The Federation itself has it's own flag according to the films and series. But the article here doesn't have the flag added. The question I would like to ask is why? KirkTGM (talk) 11:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, since wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse.


 * In this case it's probably just because no one has got around to making a copyright free image of the Federation flag and uploading it. So, if you want to help then go ahead and make one. You'll need to make it yourself, not find it on Google and paste it in, to make sure the image is copyright free. --Shimbo (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to add to this: the image of the Federation flag that you added before was from Memory Alpha and on a CC-BY-SA-NC (Attribution-Share Alike-Non-Commercial) licence. Images on CC-BY-SA-NC licences can't be used by Wikipedia (See Image_use_policy) which was why your edit was reverted.--Shimbo (talk) 12:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

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Anthem
Anthem is listed at https://nationalanthems.info/ufp.htm (which states it appears in an episode of DS9, “Take Me Out To The Holosuite”) and in several YouTubes. Sounds like it is based on Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken to me. Is this suitable to add to the article? FrankSier (talk) 10:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)