Talk:United States at the Olympics

Move
Article United States at the Olympics should be moved to United States at the Summer Olympics, as per NOCattheSummerOlympics. Mariano (t/c) 14:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


 * No, this is a portal to any U.S. Olympics articles and should not be renamed to be specific to certain games. See the Summer and Winter medals?  As it was recently created, the new sections are about the forthcoming summer games.  (SEWilco 07:23, 16 December 2005 (UTC))


 * Due to the lack of consensus to move this article, I'm removing it from Requested moves. Should this change in the future, feel free to re-add it. —Cleared as filed. 02:34, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup Needed
There are a few instances of errors such as the incomplete sentence referring to the Turin Olympics.--PhattyFatt 02:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge?
How about combining this with United States at the Summer Olympics and United States at the Winter Olympics? Most countries either have a combined entry, or Summer and Winter entries, but not both... Paulbrock 16:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Ranks
Im going to delete the ranks on the right because of WP:OLY.Toutvientapoint (talk) 16:43, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Whos the real first olympian winner
Please see the question the 1896 games medal table, here. – HonorTheKing (talk) 21:47, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Number of silver medals in the 1984 olympics in LA
In the Medals by Summer Games, it should be 61 silver medals, not 60 in the 1984 olympics? //212.56.134.28 (talk) 15:49, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

And for the 2000 games in Sydney there are one too many bronze medals in the Medals by Summer Games table?//Inteloutside2 (talk) 16:00, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 09:37, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned references in United States at the Olympics
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of United States at the Olympics's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "sportsillustrated.cnn.com": From Miracle on Ice:  From Soccer in the United States: SI.com, Lots of questions about Fox's surprising World Cup coup, October 21, 2011, http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/grant_wahl/10/21/fox.world.cups/index.html#ixzz2LICEAHaC From Lopez Lomong: Olympian Lopez Lomong Still Dreaming Big Si.com, January 6, 2009 

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:18, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Medal Totals
There is something wrong with the gold medal totals. At the top right hand side of the article, there is a graphic with gold, silver and bronze colored boxes containing the numbers of each type of medal the USA has won from the beginning of the games to present time. The gold medal total listed there is 1125. However, in the medal tables section of the article, the totals listed for summmer and winter games respectively are 1022 and 105, for a total of 1127. I'm not sure which is right, but something is in error. I did verify that 1022 and 105 are the correct sums for the year-by-year totals listed in the tables. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.0.204 (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2020 (UTC) There is an inconsistency in the totals of all the medals in the "Medals By Summer Games" The totals of the medals of Gold, Silver, Bronze, Total, of all the summer olympics held so far should be 1061, 836, 752, 2636 whereas the the totals are shown as 1075, 846, 749, 2673. So if the totals are correct than medals of some the individual olympics are incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.79.238 (talk) 04:32, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Tone down the patriotism
In many places, this article does not read as a neutral encyclopedia entry. Wikipedia articles are neither disappointed or impressed by any country. The US is by far the most populous developed nation, with 2.5 times the population of Japan. It has more medals as a consequence of its population and wealth. Wealth is important, because high-level sportspeople require ample free time, facilities and sponsorship. Its consistently high tally position is therefore unsurprising. The US performance should not be personified. Words like "stellar", "redemption", "leading force", "dismal", "staggering", "completely obliterated" are appropriate for US sports news, but is not NPOV. There is off-topic commentary such as "zealous resistance from the Japanese".

The Cold War history reads as heroes vs villains propaganda, for example: "Soviet machine". The line "Americans did their best to challenge the Soviets, but the playing field wasn't level" is subjective analysis. Wikipedia cannot arbitrate. US doping is not mentioned, as per Doping_in_the_United_States. Many countries had ways of getting around the professional ban, for example the US use of Athletic scholarships is not mentioned. More crucially, it is poorly sourced and in many cases not sourced. Many details here are not in the article Soviet Union at the Olympics. There are claims linked to Sports Reference, that don't exist there. Poorly sourced and biased writing impacts on credibility. Well done to all the athletes, but no medals for this article. Travelmite (talk) 15:42, 9 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I very much agree with the previous comment. It’s time for the article to be revised to remove the personification, heroes vs. villains tone, POV language, subjective analysis, and the unseemly and wholly unnecessary year-by-year medals comparisons with Russia, which by its very inclusion reflects an animus. Jeff in CA (talk) 22:02, 25 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Section Russia–United States rivalry must be removed from this article. I urge the author (User:Gumswick55) to create a separate article for this section and move this section there. Nitobus (talk) 10:23, 26 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Section removed this day.Jeff in CA (talk) 20:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Summer sport medal table specification
In the medal table by summer sports, some entries are really too specific and are only written like that for the United States. Here, for some unknown reason, each sub-division of cycling and canoeing are divided. But I really find it strange to describe these medals like that only for one country. So, to be uniform with the other pages, I propose to delete these rows in the table and create only 2 new rows: Cycling and Canoeing. What do you think ? Virkin29 (talk) 13:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I would agree with that opinion. I think you're welcome to bold edit (WP:BRD) and refer to the discussion here, if there are any objections. Miria~01 (talk) 18:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)