Talk:Universal Business Language

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Regarding the first edit of more information regarding UBL, @GermanJoe is making uninformed conclusions regarding any beneficial interest in my editing of this page. I am the chairman of the UBL Technical Committee https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl in a volunteer capacity. I've been retired for 10 years and have no financial interest. I take my volunteer work seriously. There are no books on UBL except for the one that I wrote, which is available for free, and I do not cite that book in this article. I am citing a peer-reviewed article that I happened to write and posted to a third-party web site.

Short of copying the text into the wikipedia article, it is cited for the convenience of readers, and not for my edification nor gain.

Regarding the second edit of more information regarding the adoption of UBL in India, the Indian Government (much to the chagrin of the user community) removed the public pages at the end of a comment period and the community is awaiting revised information. Nevertheless, citing some recognition of their work is important. Arbitrarily choosing to remove the information that India is considering the use of UBL is keeping information away from the article reader.

I'm restoring both links because there is no justification for their removal.

Gkholman (talk) 16:50, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


 * You are editing this article to popularize your project, organization and personal publications. This is an obvious violation of Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline. Whether you are being paid or not is irrelevant in this regard - Wikipedia does prohibit both unpaid and paid promotional editing. Also, please provide a link to any meaningful peer review process or editorial standards on XML.com. You keep claiming that XML.com is peer-reviewed, but the site itself contradicts this claim in its own description. GermanJoe (talk) 17:33, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


 * If you can provide independent reliable sources and want to suggest content, of course you are welcome to post an edit request here on article talk (see COI message box on top of this talkpage). GermanJoe (talk) 17:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

I will thank you to stop putting words in my mouth. I am not "popularizing" the project, I'm describing the project without promotion. I have provided a citation for all of the projects and implementations and software described.

If you are unwilling to accept the XML.com editors (my peers in the XML industry who provided me edits in the process) review of the work, I can offer no other defense. I won't put the reference back. Again, there is no promotional information in the article.

I do not understand why the reference to India's adoption of UBL is considered "promotion" and not "information" as is the information of all of the other adoptions. Your edit does a disservice to the community in India and to the community of developers. Why did you decide to slight that deployment and none of the others?

And I do not understand why references to the community resources also is considered "promotion" and not "information". Surely some people reading the article would find that of interest. Again, your edit does a disservice by eliding useful informational content.

You asked me to add my conflict of interest declaration to the page and then you removed it.

You've added the warning that there are external links that are inappropriate. Tell me which ones they are and why they are inappropriate, otherwise, remove the warning because it is unjustified.

Gkholman (talk) 01:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)