Talk:University of Toronto Schools

House System
This section is completely retarded. It takes up more than half the article, and noone who doesn't already know about it by being a student would ever have any interest. This is an encyclopedia, not a slut parade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.24.38 (talk • contribs)


 * I think there's some value in discussing the house system&mdash;it is, or ought to be, an important part of student life. But I agree the present coverage is probably more verbose than necessary. Neilc 02:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Notable Alumni
There were a couple of alumni added whose adherence to Wikipedia's Notability criteria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_notability_criteria) wasn't obvious. Should someone wish to add them back in, suggest you start by creating an article about them, seeing whether the article sticks, and linking to them here if it does. AnotherBDA 19:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

House System Changes
Given that I did my grad project (which I believe can still be found online) on the House System and it was my greatest passion while at UTS, I've fleshed out the House System section a bit, although it could probably do with some more editing, and I will probably add more information later. Also, I changed 'pendants' to 'pennants', as the latter is the correct one. Most of the information is directly copied and pasted from my website from several years ago, but I did all of the original research and writing myself.

Also changed a part under extracurriculars. Contrary to popular belief, all four houses were not camed after former Headmasters. Cody was named after the former University of Toronto president Rev. Henry John Cody.

Also, in terms of House executive positions, shouldn't 'Gonfaloniere' be listed as a fifth executive position for Lewis? Or has that position been removed at this point? I recall there being a motion to do so several years ago, although it was unsuccessful.

Please keep in mind that I graduated in 2004, so many thing could have changed that are no long congruent with what I've added. Please correct me if that's the case. Xanthophiliac 06:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Good stuff, but I think the article now goes into far too much detail about House System events and the like. Suggest you edit it down to a brief summary of these, and create a separaet article "University of Toronto Schools House System", or something similar. AnotherBDA 06:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, actually, and it was one thing I was kind of worried about after I saw how much detail it went into. I'll get around to starting up a new article once I have more time. Xanthophiliac 09:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Cool. Thanks. AnotherBDA 19:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


 * FYI the house cross country run was cancelled odn't delete this part

School, Schools, and the Single Life
The University of Toronto Schools is?


 * meh. it's one single school, despite whatever drove it to be named in the plural a century ago. as a student of aforementioned school, I can vouch for this. Yelyos 09:51, Jun 30, 2004 (UTC)


 * UTS was pluralized because there was supposed to be more than one model school, but the others didn't pan out. bluecricket 12:39, July 25, 2005


 * UTS was founded in 1910 - there were supposed to be 2 schools - 1 for boys and 1 for girls. The school for girls never opened, and in 1973 UTS became co-educational - 35 girls were admitted to each of grades 7 and 8.  The name remained the same.

Nobel Prize Winners
An anonymous user (72.136.22.220) changed "two Nobel Prize winners" to "Canada's only two Nobel Prize winners" -- but Canada appears to have had at least 18 Nobel Prize winners (see eg http://www.cric.ca/en_html/guide/nobel/nobel.html). So I changed it back. If UTS's two Nobels are the only two winners of a particular kind of Nobel prize, then say that. --AnotherBDA 01:20, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Do people really think that it's funny to vandalize this section? It's not. Grow up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1994to2012 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Tone
The article was a bit promotional-sounding and kinda messy, so I cleaned it up. Note that the Chapnick-edited history has a few pages summarizing each decade. If anyone had it and wanted to summarize a paragraph for each decade, that'd fix things up. AnotherBDA 07:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Given the search-and-replace vandal's persistence, time for an IP history watch, I guess. So far we have two people at three locations (at U of T, and at two home address).

1. IP address registered to U of Toronto and subassigned to its Erindale campus (http://www.utm.utoronto.ca/139.0.html, e-mail ). Frequently-occurring edits: "Bardia", "Ljiljana", and "Stuart":
 * 142.150.33.132: Mar 27, 15:12
 * 142.150.33.136: Mar 27, 15:17
 * 142.150.32.210: Mar 27, 18:32
 * 142.150.32.210: Mar 28, 13:34
 * 142.150.33.201: Mar 29, 15:28
 * 142.150.33.79: Mar 30, 15:43-47
 * 142.150.33.101: Mar 30, 15:56
 * 142.150.33.132: Apr 03, 13:57, 17:55-18:02
 * 142.150.33.137: Apr 03, 17:58-9

This user has also vandalized All Blacks, Cameron, Dick Cheney, Fedor Emelianenko, Lennox Lewis, Lilium, Liquor Control Board of Ontario, Motorcycle, Neuropsychology, Philip of Norway, Postmodernism, Probation, Probation (workplace), Robot, Ukraine, Violin.

2. Sympatico high-speed Internet home account (72.136.89.239), Toronto.
 * 02:42, 4 April 2006
 * 00:49, 31 March 2006
 * 00:48, 31 March 2006
 * 04:42, 30 March 2006

This user has also vandalized Bard, Capital punishment, Cob (building), Cobb salad, Cobb (surname), Cobb, California, Cobb County, Georgia, Laughter, Maksim Grek, Motorcycle, Philip.

3. Rogers high-speed Internet home account (69.158.99.231), Toronto:
 * 02:06, 4 April 2006

4. Sympatico high-speed Internet home account (64.231.7.230), Toronto. Frequently-occurring edit: "Hobden":
 * 00:44, 5 April 2006

This user has also vandalized Ty Cobb

Refer to point #1, the latter three are (now former) students of the school.

A lot of UTS students are vandalizing the articles, and we need to put a stop to this.

Class of 2013 and Class of 2014 ????
The admissions section refers to the Class of 2013 and the Class of 2014 which seem highly suspect. Could there be other strange things in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.30.202.22 (talk) 22:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Class of 2013 = students who are, as of this academic year, in grade 7 and entered the school in September 2008. There are few other ways to refer to any particular body of students other than using their graduating class year. Pandacomics (talk) 05:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Contradiction?
On the first paragraph of the main body, we have: "The first stage consists of a multiple choice exam, with approximately 500 participating; those who pass this test in the top percentiles (usually 200 students) are invited back for a second written exam and an interview. Ultimately, 110 candidates are chosen from more than 1000 applicants each year."

Does this mean that of the 1000 applicants, only 500 are admitted into the first stage? If so, then that's not really the 'first stage'. Even if this is not a contradiction, perhaps it should be clarified.


 * The problem is that the number of applicants varies each year. Several years ago (I don't remember the exact year), there were 1200 applicants to grade 7, while more recently the number has lowered to between 500-600.  As well, the admissions process has changed; the first stage used to be a UTS-created multiple-choice test. Now, the first stage of admissions to UTS is the SSAT, while the second stage includes mathematical problem solving, a 20-minute interview, and a review of the written sample from the SSAT. UTS Grade 7 Application Procedure Onessun (talk) 17:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Note to editors
IP addresses in the ranges 142.150.32.* and 142.150.33.* are IP addresses of computers specifically at this school. 142.150.33.178 17:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Template Error
In the information box at the top of the page, the word enrollment is not capitalized. Does anyone know how to fix this? Firebat08 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 01:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

POV tag
This concerns POV tag cleanup. Whenever an POV tag is placed, it is necessary to also post a message in the discussion section stating clearly why it is thought the article does not comply with POV guidelines, and suggestions for how to improve it. This permits discussion and consensus among editors. This is a drive-by tag, which is discouraged in WP, and it shall be removed. Future tags should have discussion posted as to why the tag was placed, and how the topic might be improved. Better yet, edit the topic yourself with the improvements. This statement is not a judgement of content, it is only a cleanup of frivolously and/or arbitrarily placed tags. No discussion, no tag.Jjdon (talk) 00:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

House events and Grade-specific events
I believe that these two sections should be deleted. They are completely unverified, trivial to the average layman, and non-notable. They are encyclopedic. If anyone objects, please revert me and reply here. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Advertisement
This article should not be on Wikipedia. This is an advertisement, is linked from the school's website, and has undoubtedly been written mostly by their staff. Ex: "Almost every student participates in at least one club and they have a great time." I don't know much about how Wikipedia works but I do believe advertisements should not be here, and that is simply all that this article is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.1.252 (talk) 12:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, feel free to be bold and remove that part, cause that sentence would be blatantly written from someone's point of view. Good call. Pandacomics (talk) 13:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) DumZiBoT (talk) 23:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "p39" :
 * Advani, With Pardonable Pride: The University of Toronto Schools, p.39
 * Advani, With Pardonable Pride: The University of Toronto Schools, p.44

Extracurriculars
I've cleaned up the part about clubs; it made reference to clubs which are no longer in existence at the school ("a former multi-player gaming club"), which I felt was somewhat rediculous. There were also double-mentions of certain events. I also edited a bit for grammar and clarity, though if someone wants to go through and change the voice to make it less awkward, please do.

Also, I removed the last section on why the house system section should be reinstated from the talk page because of its vulgarity.

Crawford Cheer
1) This is not their real cheer. 2) The reference is fake. I don't really think that this is important at all. Jobjams (talk) 02:02, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Done. Jobjams (talk) 02:05, 28 September 2011 (UTC)