Talk:Urban design

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There is quite a lot of repetition in the Urban Design pager.

The principles section does not seem to contain any true principles.

Unfortunately the overall impression the page is giving is that urban design is a load of phoney baloney snake oil, rather than the practical and profoundly important activity that it is.

It needs a really good edit by someone with both knowledge and patience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newurbaniste (talk • contribs) 20:48, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... the problem is that urban design doesn't really have that much of a coherent identity - BECAUSE as the page says, it is undertaken by people in a wide variety of professions all of whom have their own interpretation of what UD should be about. BTJMBO. Dotdotdotcomma (talk) 17:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Use of the word "theory"

Are what are described as "urban design theories" actually theories, or merely observations? It would be helpful if the theory section could be expanded and the theories critically appraised.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Evidencebase (talk • contribs) 14:49, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Borders between Landscape and Urban Planning

any borders are rather disappearing -> see the emergence of Landscape-Urbanism (coined in the mid-90ies in the USA)

Urban Design as a term has a clear origin. It was formally established in 1956 at Harvard University as a reaction to technocratic planning and the emergence of sprawl. The term was coined by Jose Lluis Sert and marked the formation of this new discipline.

I would like to see something about urban sociology added to this.

The section on Equalities includes references to legislation without indication of the country where it applies. I imagine that the easiest thing is to note the country in parentheses after any reference to an act, but as similar legislation exists in different places with differing titles and dates a more generic comment may be appropriate rather than reference to specific Acts and dates. R Jones 05:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Reiterating that urban design is an already developed term with courses and actual "urban design" graduate and undergraduate major and minor programs at some universities across the nation (ie: University of Washington, Seattle). I would doubt if urban design were to simply merge into landscape-urbanism. Landscape Architecture and Urban Planning have very specific focuses which are different from urban design. Urban design has a creative design goal such as accomplishing a certain feel or look of a street by manipulating multiple surfaces and their elements such as materials, colors, shapes, etc. You can reference definitions from various universities. Landscape-urbanism imo is about mitigating urban issues such as pollution and wind shearing by planning spaces for environmental conditions and adding elements such as vegetation. For now I also don't see a merge of the term landscape to mean site planning or design in general. Planning also will remain focused on frameworks, policies, and plans instead of micromanaging the design. Davumaya 12:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Ethnicity
I don't think you will find any valid sources for this small peice of information. First of all; Islam is not an ethnicity, it's a religion - it may be acceptable to consider it as a culture but not acceptable as an ethnicity.

Second, I have no idea where the concept of private spaces turning into public came from; this is totally wrong, private places never become public unless the rightful owner donates it to the public (as with most cultures).

However, there is indeed a tentat in Islam that says that if you owned a certain space and you did not fence it appropriately you have no right to assume that people will not treat it as public. (I'm not sure of the exact wording - I'll have to look that up). This means that if you have, say, a big garden that is not fenced or otherwise made clear via physical structures that it is privet(as opposed to hanging a sign or owning a legal document), then you can not complain if people came and had picnics in the garden. If you did fence it and someone came in without permission then you have the right to remove them by force (push them out, get the police, through their stuff out - killing not allowed in the old "wild west" method).

Also, if you have a low fence (say, half a metre high) you lose your right to privacey in terms of sight, i.e, people have the right to look inside and see what is going on. If your fence was high (above normal eye level - approx 1.8 metres) then you have a legal right to full privacey (no one is allowed to look even if you forget to shut the gate) - hence came the Arab (not sure if all Muslims too) tradition of having high fences around their property (2+ metres). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maha Odeh (talk • contribs) 2007-06-18T12:42:37 UTC

Suggested new external link
I work for the national regeneration agency in England, English Partnerships. We have recently created a website to accompany our urban design compendium publications and would like to suggest adding a link to it from the external links, industry resources list on the Urban Design page. Over 25,000 free copies of the orginal urban design compendium have been distributed worldwide and it has been acknowledged as a very useful tool by both urban design professionals and students alike. The URL of this new website is [http://www.urbandesigncompendium.co.uk]. Helenaball 15:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Question about Urban design
is urban design also refers to the design of roads in small villages ?.... פארוק (talk) 17:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Mesopotamia?
The true origin of Urban planning is not mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.9.50.70 (talk) 10:41, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Relationship between content of this page and urbandesign.org
A lot of the content of this page seems to have been copied and pasted from http://www.urbandesign.org, which seems to me to violate copyrights (?), and is quite dodgy anyway as the page in question appears to be advertising the services of a particular urban design company, rather than impartially representing urban design as a professional activity? I could be wrong. Dotdotdotcomma (talk) 18:12, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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UD definition / general updates
My team and I from Washington University Urban Design are trying to edit this page to better reflect the current state of urban design and urban designers (slow going side project at the moment). It seems that some of the differences are regional / international, some are linguistic, and some are ideological (but we agree the page is not currently doing the field justice). The general New Urbanism slant to the page falls in the latter (ideological positioning). It should better represent a broad range of scholars and designers, particularly under the list of theorists/authors. Some rigor and references throughout will help, and some broadening to include spatial justice and newly emerging sub-fields (many of which are no longer newly emerging, but well established). We're working mostly on that area, and on fixing vague or illogical wording (sub-subfields? Not really workable). The history portion is a bit of a mess, so we're mostly steering clear of that. This is taking us a while, so maybe we discuss some things over here while in process. LSAMS (talk) 15:53, 18 December 2019 (UTC)LS


 * Sounds promsing. Good luck with that! Sionk (talk) 18:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

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