Talk:Vera Farmiga/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Slightlymad (talk · contribs) 04:31, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Interesting choice an article to bring for evaluation against the much-coveted Good Article standards! It looks fine through a cursory glance, but my assessment should take more than a week. So please stick around and put this review page onto your watchlist so I don't have to ping you frequently. Possibly you could mention what drew you to editing the article and why you are nominating it at this time. SLIGHTLY mad   04:31, 18 September 2017 (UTC)


 * No problem. I've been a fan of this actress for a while and have been a frequent editor to the article for a couple of years, putting in the work to bring it to a good standard. I feel now is as good a time as any to see if it passes for a Good Article! RedLiquorice (talk) 12:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Very well, here are my initial comments:


 * There are a decent amount of dead refs or refs that redirect to different links. Please fix them right away so I may verify the prose against the source.

Early life and education

 * "When she was twelve" -> At age 12?
 * She has one older brother, Victor, and five younger siblings—Stephan, Nadia, Alexander, Laryssa (who was born with spina bifida), and Taissa. Her maternal grandparents, Nadia (née Pletenciw; October 23, 1925 – October 19, 2014) and Theodor Spas (March 20, 1921 – February 4, 1990), met at a displaced persons camp in Karlsfeld during World War II. just segue this into the first paragraph as the second sentence. And no need to add the complete dates - just put the year range (e.g. 1925–2017)
 * At the time, her grandfather was working as a mechanic for the United States Army. Theodor and Nadia married in Munich in 1946, and emigrated to the States (aboard the USS General M. B. Stewart) in 1950 when Luba was 14 months old.[20] Farmiga's father was born in Ukraine and raised in Argentina. A soccer player, Michael was scouted for the Argentine national team, and also played professionally for the Newark Ukrainian Sitch. Undue as it discusses Farmiga's next of kin rather than Farmiga herself.

...may come back later. SLIGHTLY mad   12:29, 18 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Provide a reliable source that supports both her complete name as well as DOB in the lede; place it outside the parentheses when you find it.
 * You may cite this as the source instead. SLIGHTLY  mad   05:35, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

1996–2001: Beginnings
Note: If you notice different wording from the article, that means I have copy edited it. SLIGHTLY mad   06:04, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The film, which aired on the CBS network on April 20, 1997, also featured Jennifer Garner and Justin Chambers in the cast. undue
 * The show premiered on July 14, 1997, and was cancelled by the network after only one season. source?
 * The film, released on August 11, 2000, grossed a total of $90.7 million worldwide from a budget of $65 million, becoming a financial success. undue
 * The film, released on March 9, 2001, fared well at the box office, grossing $56.4 million worldwide against a budget of $42 million. undue
 * Farmiga next played the beautiful former slave Catlin in Fox's fantasy adventure series Roar, bold text not in source given
 * Two years later, Farmiga had a supporting role as Lisa Tyler in the romantic drama Autumn in New York, opposite Richard Gere (who played her character's biological father) and Winona Ryder. bolded sentence clause not in source given
 * The following year, Farmiga had a major supporting role as Czech immigrant Daphne Handlova in the action thriller 15 Minutes, alongside Robert De Niro. clause not in source given
 * ref. 12 is dead
 * She next co-starred in the British-Macedonian drama film Dust, opposite Adrian Lester, which opened at the Venice Film Festival on August 29, 2001. clause not in source given
 * She then portrayed Queen Josephine... not in source given

2002–2008: Breakthrough
Note: If you notice different wording from the article, that means I have copy edited it. SLIGHTLY mad   07:37, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Farmiga had her first starring role in the romantic drama film Love in the Time of Money, which premiered at the 2002 Sundance Film Festival on January 11, and later received a limited release on November 1. clause not in source given
 * In June 2002, she portrayed Helen in David Eldridge's Under the Blue Sky at the Williamstown Theatre Festival. not in source given
 * The following year, Farmiga had her breakthrough role as a drug-addicted mother, Irene Morrison, in the independent drama film Down to the Bone, which premiered at the Sundance Film Festival on January 15, 2004. needs another reliable source; one that supports the fact that either implies or explicitly states that her appearance in that movie was her "breakthrough" role, as well as its Sundance premiere.
 * Can you cite a professional film critic's opinion about Farmiga's performance in Down to the Bone, preferably from The Hollywood Reporter or Variety?
 * The series premiered on the USA Network on March 12, 2004 and was well received by critics; however, the network did not renew the series for a second season. undue
 * The film, released on July 30, 2004, was well received by critics, and grossed $96.1 million at the worldwide box office. undue
 * The following year, she co-starred in the fantasy drama Neverwas with Aaron Eckhart and Ian McKellen, which premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival on September 9, 2005 and went straight to DVD two years later. not in source given
 * The film, released on October 6, 2006, was lauded by critics, winning four Academy Awards including Best Picture. It went on to gross $289.8 million at the worldwide box office from a budget of $90 million. undue
 * She next starred as Teresa Gazelle in Wayne Kramer's crime thriller Running Scared, released on February 24, 2006, not in source given
 * Farmiga subsequently landed the lead role of Sophie Lee in Gina Kim's Korean-American romantic drama Never Forever, which premiered at the 2007 Sundance on January 18 not in source given
 * Based on the novel of the same name, the film was well received by critics, grossing $44.1 million against a budget of $12.5 million. undue
 * She then starred in the British-Russian war drama In Transit alongside John Malkovich, which was released in Russia on March 4, 2008. not in source given

2009–2012: Directorial debut
Note: If you notice different wording from the article, that means I have copy edited it.


 * She then appeared as Aurora de Valday in Niki Caro's romantic drama A Heavenly Vintage, which premiered at the 2009 Toronto International Film Festival on September 12. not in source given
 * ...which premiered at the 2011 South by Southwest on March 11, and in theaters on April 1. not in source given
 * The film was a critical and commercial success, grossing $147.3 million worldwide from a budget of $32 million. undue
 * Farmiga was offered lead roles in both Madonna's romantic drama W.E. not in source given
 * ...in which she also starred as the adult Corinne Walker. "adult" is rather vague. Be a little bit more descriptive. Just follow this format: "in which she also starred as Corinne Walker, a insert description here. Please make sure that is in the source you provide.
 * During her second pregnancy, Farmiga made her directorial debut in the micro-budget, Christian-themed drama Higher Ground not in source given
 * The film received critical acclaim following its premiere at the 2011 Sundance on January 23, I'd reword this into: "The film, which received "generally favorable reviews" on Metacritic," and support it with this source . Another reliable source should be provided for the January 23rd release date at Sundance, though.
 * The film had its premiere in New York City on February 7, 2012, and was released in theaters three days later. Although it received mixed reviews from critics, the film was a financial success, grossing $208.1 million worldwide from a budget of $85 million. undue
 * ...which opened at the 2012 Sundance on January 24, and was given a limited US release on August 10. not in source given
 * What does another professional critic have to say about Farmiga's acting performance in her own film? Just add it next to Honeycutt's comment.
 * That same year, she portrayed CIA operative Catherine Linklater in Daniel Espinosa's action thriller Safe House, not in source given
 * (The film had its premiere in New York City on February 7, 2012, and was released in theaters three days later. Although it received mixed reviews from critics, the film was a financial success, grossing $208.1 million worldwide from a budget of $85 million. undue

To be continued... SLIGHTLY mad   09:04, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Filmography
I know this should be the last thing to be done, but I'd like to skip on this right away so there'll be enough breathing room on the remaining sections
 * Those content supported by refs. 40, 47, 56, 59, 66-70, 80, 81, 90-96, 101 should be merged here; that also means removing the bulleted list of this section.
 * Substitute the hatnote with this and get rid of the "Awards and nominations" section. Finally, rename this section into "Filmography and awards".
 * Provide a concise overview of Farmiga's filmography as well as her accolades received. I'd like you to visit the Ben Affleck (a FA) and Jessica Chastain (a GA) articles for pointers on what to include here.

2013–present

 * What do professional critics have to say about Farmiga's portrayal of Norma Bates in the show? Cite two reactions and segue them into a single sentence instead of directly quoting separately (i.e. A said B, while X said Y)
 * Same with her portrayal of Lorraine Warren; THR has a reaction of her performance.
 * Any reactions from Warren herself about Farmiga's performance in The Conjuring?
 * In addition to starring in the series, she served as a producer, and later executive producer, from the second season to its fifth and final season. not in source given
 * She next appeared in James Wan's horror film The Conjuring, and was met with critical and commercial success. need another reliable source which explicitly states this consensus.
 * Like its predecessor, The Conjuring 2 was met with a positive critical reception and commercial success, becoming the second highest-grossing horror film of all time. same thing
 * In 2013, Farmiga appeared as Edith Martin in the romantic comedy At Middleton, with Andy García and her sister Taissa. Remove "In 2013" and just add the year of release beside the title
 * and had a limited US release on January 31, 2014. remove
 * She then starred as Alice Bercovich in the Romanian-American comedy-drama Closer to the Moon, based on the events of the Ioanid Gang. The film, directed by Nae Caranfil, was given a limited US release on April 17, 2015. Reword into: "Also in 2013, she starred as Alice Bercovich in Nae Caranfil's Romanian-American comedy-drama Closer to the Moon, based on the events of the Ioanid Gang."
 * The Judge -> The Judge (2014)
 * The film was released on October 10, 2014. remove
 * ...before being released worldwide on April 29, 2016. remove
 * Farmiga also co-starred as Dr. Nora Phillips, alongside Dakota Fanning and Clive Owen, in the BMW short film The Escape, directed by Neill Blomkamp. -> "Farmiga co-starred as Dr. Nora Phillips in Neill Blomkamp's BMW short film The Escape, alongside Dakota Fanning and Clive Owen."
 * No need for the exact dates of the releases; I believe those should be left in their own article. I suggest changing the complete dates in this section (e.g. October 23, 2016 -> October 2016; Tribeca Film Festival on April 22, 2016 -> 2016 Tribeca Film Festival)

Personal life

 * ref. 122 needs to be replaced with another reliable source as Twitter is generally not accepted as one.
 * The first direct quote under the Religion section is 50-word in length and could probably be a block quote.
 * Just trim the second quote in the same section by paraphrasing it a bit

Sorry to have kept you waiting as I just got my broadband restored at home. I believe there are some comments above still remain unresolved - please review them properly and if you're absolutely sure that you have resolved them, mark them with the on either side of the text (e.g. This sample comment has been resolved ). I'll get with this review real soon. SLIGHTLY mad   12:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Final comments
Here are a few final touches:

SLIGHTLY mad   11:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You still haven't added a blockquote on that first quotation under Religion section
 * Lede: This role, along with her roles in Joshua, Orphan, and the Conjuring film series, is there a reason these titles don't have years of release beside them? Also, you make use of the word "role" in a single sentence, please copyedit.
 * Early life and education: Farmiga went on to study performing arts at Syracuse University, from which she graduated in 1995 she graduated with what college degree?


 * I'm having trouble finding a source detailing Lorraine Warren's reaction to Farmiga's performance in The Conjuring films, so I think critic reactions will have to suffice here. RedLiquorice (talk) 14:09, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey don't sweat it. I just thought it'd be nice to add in the prose, for what it's worth. SLIGHTLY  mad   14:43, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Closing comment: Alright since the article, as it stands, is well-researched and broad, contains appropriately licensed photos, free from grammar issues, and places the subject in context with no bias whatsoever, I'm happy to say the article has passed against the Good Article criteria. Well done! You may be interested in nominating the article for WP:DYK as it's a newly-promoted GA; more information can be read at that page.

P.S. Employing the magic of the IA bot tool, I've managed to archive all sources retrieved online by a single click. You're welcome. SLIGHTLY mad   14:43, 26 September 2017 (UTC)