Talk:Vincennes porcelain

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Hi all, I'm puzzled by the following sentence: "The essential ingredient for hard-paste porcelain, such as came from Chinese kilns, was kaolin clay" as kaolin is also used in soft-paste porcelain Any thoughts? Regards, Andy
 * Perhaps there's no perceivable distinction between hard-paste and soft-paste then. Vincennes porcelain is in the category "French pottery" (!) after all. Ceramics is a useful term. --Wetman (talk) 00:00, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Flour is used for both bread and cake! Follow the links. Porcelain is pottery, and the main ceramics category, I feel is best left for industrial uses. The three categories are already repetitive enough, and porcelain manufacturers have an irritating habit of doing other types of pottery as well. Johnbod (talk) 00:20, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

[D'Argenson?]
Hi all,

This article refers to "d'Argenson's anecdote of [Mme de Pompadour] receiving Louis XV there in a conservatory furnished in winter with perfumed porcelain flowers among those from the hothouse."

I can't find this anecdote in d'Argenson's memoirs or diaries; I tried to track down the citation, the "Ceramics" entry in Collier's Encyclopedia, but there was no mention of Madame de Pompadour, Vincennes, or d'Argenson (it was possible that I was looking in the wrong edition of the Encyclopedia, but as original author gives no edition, I have no way of knowing).

This anecdote does, however, appear in the memoirs of the duc de Richelieu. I am wondering if the original author confused Richelieu with d'Argenson. This is an easy mistake: both are prominent memoirists in the court of Louis XV during the time of Madame de Pompadour and both criticized her spending on Vincennes porcelain.

If anyone finds this anecdote in d'Argenson's writings, please do let me know! It would be fascinating if both d'Argenson and Richelieu relayed the same (rather unlikely) anecdote about Madame de Pompadour's use of porcelain at Bellevue. HMBerton (talk) 23:49, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
 * It was added in 2010 by User:Wetman who is still sometimes around. Also see this. Johnbod (talk) 00:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)