Talk:Violence against women in Ukraine

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Aside from being non-neutral, the article is also outdated, based mostly on the 2000 Kobelyanska papers, which are somewhat biased too. For example, it says that "According to data from NGOs, one-third of young jobless women in Ukraine have become involved in some capacity in the illegal sex business." Which data, from which NGOs? Why doesn't the wiki article elaborate on the present day statistics? Why doesn't it mention that it's the data "as of..." 1999? 2000? Why does the wiki article talk about the abundance of (soft) pornography in Ukraine if it's been banned since 2009? --Piramidion 00:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also the first sentence of the lead section seems to be misinterpreting the source, here's an abstract:

The apparent acceptance of violence as a fact of family life in Ukraine characterizes it as an entrenched social problem engendered by traditional male and female stereotypes.

The source says about "acceptance of violence" being an entrenched social problem while the article distorts its meaning, so that only "violence against women" becomes an "entrenched social problem engendered by traditional male and female stereoptypes" (violence against men is also engendered by those very stereotypes) --Piramidion 18:43, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AFD: The article is a burp of the information war during The Russian military intervention in Ukraine. — Alexey Tourbaevsky, cheloVechek / talk 19:34, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I share this opinion, but I already tried to nominate it for deletion. The decision was "keep", so... Now it would be best if someone at least improved it (and I don't think that it would be a good idea if that 'someone' was me).--Piramidion 22:31, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]