Talk:Vivarium

Terrariums redirect here (2010-2013)
I see the article on terrariums was redirected here some time ago. Anyone have a link to a discussion on it? I can't find anything. As one of the two major types of vivarium—along with aquariums—I'm curious to know what the rationale was, assuming there even was a consensus for it, as other types of vivariums still have articles.  Mbinebri  talk &larr; 04:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There should be an article focused only on the horticultural terrarium. It seems to be the more common and traditional form. Most people do not think of a glorified reptile cage with plants when thinking of a terrarium. Thriley (talk) 00:43, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with Thrilley, it should be more about plants and less about the other quasi-terrrarium things.Laurenlinn (talk) 22:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC) And to update myself, I do find it odd that the page about "terrariums" redirects to this vivarium page.  Vivariums are about having reptiles and plants but a terrarium page could be more about the horticultural side of it.  I'm new to wikipedia but I would like to pursue building a terrarium page and then removing the redirect to vivarium page.  Laurenlinn (talk) 22:39, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Point of view (2011) ? - Need pages for vivarium types eg terrarium (2013)
This article is clearly trying to push a liberal vivisectionist point of view. 76.26.81.197 (talk) 07:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * No it's not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.177.1.213 (talk) 19:05, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

What liberal vivisectionist point of view are you talking about?!!!??! I find that statement to be ridiculous, although I do not know what this article looked like two years ago. However, considering that it is almost 2014, I think it is time that additional pages are created for these different types of terrariums, as having everything redirect back to this one page is ridiculous considering the vast amount of knowledge available on these topics. Many hobbyists do not even understand the difference between a vivarium and a paludarium for instance, and most have not even heard of a riparium. I myself created a Wikipedia account just to update the previous description of ripariums which was incorrect.

Also, if these different types of terrariums had their own pages, it would be easier to provide accurate information and useful pictures to new hobbyists. This would be really great, since it might enlighten and inspire a new generation of pet keepers and plant owners to provide better habitats for their pets. The current pet-trade is full of mis-conceptions and ignorant store-owners who perpetuate common myths and mis-conceptions due to their own lack of knowledge, or in the case of corporations such as Petco, for the accumulation of wealth. If information was more readily available, many problems such as the mis-treatment of animals and plants, over-collection from the wild, and the introduction of invasive species could be avoided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Speed Tracers (talk • contribs) 04:02, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Paludarium vs Riparium
The definitions of these two as currently written is confused and partially reversed. A riparium (ripa = bank or shore) is a semi-aquatic vivarium divided horizontally with a terrestrial zone beside as aquatic zone. Its design allows the accommodation of semi-aquatic animals. The transition between land and water can be a gradual incline of substrate, or a sharp horizontal drop with access ramp. A paludarium (palus = marsh or swamp) is a semi-aquatic vivarium divided vertically with an aerial zone above shallow water (marsh) or mud (swamp), and including mandatory accommodation of semi-aquatic plants. The substrate surface may be a gradual incline between dry land and deep water, or horizontal without terrestrial nor aquatic zones. Either type of vivarium can be designed to accommodate a variety of animals and plants, with many species equally adaptable to either. Large display vivaria such as at zoos may include a combination of elements such as a riparium-paludarium-escarparium-arboretum combination; perhaps the article should make clear that not all vivaria can be subcategorized due to inclusion of multiple elements. 67.22.75.220 (talk) 01:13, 7 September 2022 (UTC)