Talk:Vyacheslav Malafeev

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Requested moves

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

UEFA site seems to be more relevant than other sites. Russian squard -.


 * Vyacheslav Malafeyev → Vyacheslav Malafeev, Igor Akinfeyev → Igor Akinfeev : 5 UEFA hits for Malafeyev, 95 for Malafeev, 1 for Akinfeyev, 245 for Akinfeev; 786 Google hits for Malafeyev, 24.500 for Malafeev, 3.860 for Akinfeyev, 64.300 for Akinfeev. — Ash063 08:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Andrey Arshavin → Andrei Arshavin : more than 100 UEFA hits for Andrei Arshavin and only 1 for Andrey Arshavin; 13.300 Google hits for Andrei Arshavin and only 640 for Andrey Arshavin. — Ash063 08:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Aleksei Berezoutski → Aleksei Berezutski, Vassili Berezoutski → Vassili Berezutski : 4 UEFA hits for Berezutsky, 0 for Berezoutsky, 54 for Berezoutski, 72 for Berezutski; 926 Google hits for Berezutsky, 235 for Berezoutsky, 562 for Berezoutski, 12.700 for Berezutski. — Ash063 08:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you acquainted with WP:RUS? Conscious 09:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * But what's the problem? «When something has a conventional name in English, use that name instead of transliterating» from WP:RUS; «Two central ideas in Wikipedia article naming: the name that is most generally recognisable, the name that is unambiguous with the name of other articles» from WP:NAMEPEOPLE — Ash063 18:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Oops. I have to acknowledge my mistake. I somehow missed the most recognisable name for brothers, "Berezutskiy". But no-one replies, so I think I can simply add a letter to my request :). So correct names stats for brothers are:


 * Aleksei Berezoutski → Aleksei Berezutskiy, Vassili Berezoutski → Vassili Berezutskiy : 4 UEFA hits for Berezutsky, 0 for Berezoutsky, 54 for Berezoutski, 72 for Berezutski, 115 for Berezutskiy, 0 for Berezoutskiy; 926 Google hits for Berezutsky, 235 for Berezoutsky, 562 for Berezoutski, 12.700 for Berezutski, 13.600 for Berezutskiy, 40 for Berezoutskiy. — Ash063 08:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

It seems to me now that the fact that Malafeev, Akinfeev, Andrei Arshavin, Berezutskiy are most common and recognisable names for these players is clearly shown above. These names are also used on kits: Akinfeev, Malafeev  , Berezutskiy. Also "Andrei Arshavin" is the name used not only on the site of UEFA, the governing body of European football, but also FIFA, the governing body of World football:  — Ash063 08:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

My further investigations lead me to the fact that I should correct this request again. Taking into account that "Berezutskiy" is the conventional name for brothers, I realised that the most common combination of name and surname for elder brother is "Vasili Berezutskiy": 5 UEFA and 85 Google hits for "Vassili Berezutskiy", 0 UEFA and 1 Google hits for "Vassiliy Berezutskiy", 0 UEFA and 25 Google hits for "Vassily Berezutskiy", 65 UEFA and 1.280 Google hits for "Vasili Berezutskiy", 10 UEFA and 1.310 Google hits for "Vasiliy Berezutskiy", 0 UEFA and 434 Google hits for "Vasily Berezutskiy".

So the requested move now is: Vassili Berezoutski → Vasili Berezutskiy. — Ash063 22:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I can also cite WP:NAME: "Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for a general audience". It seems to me that requested moves are moves of that kind of optimization. — Ash063 06:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Similarly, Igor Akinfeyev → Igor Akinfeev, Andrey Arshavin → Andrei Arshavin, Aleksei Berezoutski → Aleksei Berezutskiy and Vassili Berezoutski → Vasili Berezutskiy. --Stemonitis 06:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)