Talk:Waibaidu Bridge

Research Issues
In short -
 * Name of the original bridge builder: Wills or Wales
 * Corrobation for second Wales Bridge
 * Pictures of Wales Bridge(s)
 * Since when was the bridge called "Free Ferry Bridge"?
 * Meaning of "Waibaidu Bridge"
 * The main image says "Bridge seen from Oriental Pearl Tower"... can you see the Pearl Tower from the Pearl Tower? Is there a giant mirror opposite the bridge? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.47.198.162 (talk) 16:26, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Name of the British Man
[1] calls the name "Wales", [3] "Wills" and [4] "Welles". I'm sure the man is the same and two of the names are spelling mistakes. --Bluebird47

Number of Bridges
[1] is a post only existing in Google Cache anymore that tells the history of the bridges in great detail:

The dates of the first Wales and two Garden Bridges are corrobated by [4] and [2], which also confirms the alternative name "Free Ferry Bridge" for the 1873 Garden Bridge. This page also includes the measures of all but the current bridge. However the iron bridge from 1871 that collapsed is only mentioned by the first source. --Bluebird47

The name "Waibaidu"
[1] and [4] claim the name "wai baidu" refers to the location of the bridge, the outermost ferry crossing.

[3] claims that the name was only used for the bridges after 1873, which were free of charge for everyone and (supposedly) the outer bridge of the two bridges (Wills/Wales bridge and Garden Bridge). The former would make sense in light of the additional information of the 1873 bridge also being called "Free Ferry Bridge" ([1] and [2])

Other sources associate the name with the fact that only foreigners could cross for free, which would also fit the Chinese name for the Bund (Waitan=Foreigner's beach/water front).

--Bluebird47


 * I checked Chinese Wikipedia, and it seems to suggest that originally the bridge was called "wai baidu" as in "outer ferry crossing", but this changed to "foreign free cross" after it became free. But the CHinese wikipedia page also lacks sources :S. --Sumple (Talk) 01:56, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I think this makes very much sense, especially since Chinese terms are often ambiguous and may even contain wordplays. I have incorporated the general idea of double meaning in the text for now without making things too complicated. [1] suggests the whole story is in the Shanghai History Museum (supposedly the one in Oriental Pearl Tower?), maybe anyone in Shanghai could look it up ;) --Bluebird47

The name "Garden Bridge"
[1] is incorrect in stating that the name Garden Bridge was only used for the wooden bridge (1873-1906), and that the name has been forgotten ever since. Labelled postcards and maps from after 1907, as well as current English language material on Shanghai all mention Garden Bridge.

[4] states the bridge was called "Park Bridge" by foreigners because of the nearby Huangpu park, which is most likely a mistake since it was called "Public Garden" at that time.

--Bluebird47

Coordinate error
The coordinates need the following fixes: The correct coordinates (derived from Google Earth) are 31deg 14' 42.70"N, 121deg 29'07.82"E, but I don't know how to convert these to the decimal format used in Wikipedia.
 * The marker is 500m out on Google Earth and something similar on Wikimapia.

211.30.212.125 (talk) 11:20, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. Note slight differences in projections between the various services at GeoHack. BrainMarble (talk) 01:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Image of LED lights
Would be great to get an image of the LED lights. Consider this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pamhule/3972317028/ or this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/piyo02mel/3794146414/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.79.61 (talk) 04:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

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