Talk:War Pigs

Style

 * I deleted this:

'with heavy use of the Aeolian (natural minor) mode. It should also be noted although the guitar and bass are in E natural minor for most of the song, Ozzy's singing is actually in E Mixolydian mode.'

Frankly because its been written by someone that wants to show off their apparent musical knowledge, even though they have none. For what it is worth, all vocal lines are in the E mixolydian mode, throughtout the song. All riffs are in E minor pentatonic, with use of the blues scale in solos. The outro is still minor pentatonic, but uses 7ths (D's) which gives it a melodic feel. Please get your facts right before writing them on here. Thank you Adil Ghanty (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think a section should be included for the unique song structure and Geezer Butler's bass lines in the song, heavily influenced by blues and Jazz. The drumming in the song is quite typical of Jazz as was Bill Ward's style anyway. As noted above all singing is in E mixolydian mode, not uncommon either for Ozzy, whereas the riffs are all in E minor pentatonic, with use of not just the blues scale, but also the jazz scale, the minor pentatonic scale. The song isn't entirely unique from a Black Sabbath point of view for using these elements, but uses it more than other songs and is quite exemplary for the way Black Sabbath use Jazz and Blues in their "heavy metal", just like the Wizard is the archetypal Black Sabbath Blues song.Jorgenpfhartogs (talk) 07:48, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

--OPINION--

Whoever wrote the fourth paragraph must really like Gov't Mule.

--Reason for title change--

I heard that the title was changed because of the success of "Paranoid" as a single.

Lead genre
Black Sabbath, according to its article's lead, is a rock band. Yet for some reason, they're described here as a heavy metal band. I think this needs to be changed to rock.-Teh Thrasher (talk) 18:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Why would u do that? Sabbath is a heavy metal band, okay? They played nothing but metal. They were THE FIRST metal band in existence. Calling them a rock band is like calling GG Allin "Rock n roll." 99.108.198.222 (talk) 21:49, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Band article says otherwise - so we cannot rely on personal opinions.- Teh   Thrasher  22:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Walpurgis?
Does this claim seem off to anyone else? I'd like to see a citaion for this, or it should probably be removed.

The original name of the song was Walpurgis, and had totally different lyrics —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bscottbrown (talk • contribs) 01:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

It's true. The song 'Walpurgis' is on a few bootlegs and box sets, etc. Sometimes Ozzy mixes in some of the original lyrics when performing the song live, too.

System of a Down
I've deleted the comment about System of a Down. Ozzy Osborne and Black Sabbath were hardly the first or last people to comment on the fact that the upper class who incite wars rarely fight in them. Unless there's a citation saying that System of a Down's song, "BYOB" was directly influenced by Black Sabbath's War Pigs, I'd say this comment is unnecessary.

HXcGeek (talk) 18:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Elf cover
I've heard an old live recording Ronnie James Dio's band, Elf, did of the song. Anyone can easily find their version on Youtube. Can anyone find a source to back this up? Rockgenre (talk) 20:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Luke's Wall
Should the name for the solo at the end be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.252.4.21 (talk) 03:00, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Rondellus
There's also a cover of this song titled "Verres Militares" (in latin) composed by Rondellus, available in YouTube.

Reference 8
Ref 8 doesn't verify the preceding sentence, does it? All we get as a ref is really the record label's home page. David10244 (talk) 16:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)