Talk:Wenn alle untreu werden

Same melody as Het Wilhelmus?
The article on Het Wilhelmus says that the melody of the two songs is identical. Shouldn't that be mentioned here? --rossb (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The article also says it was sung to a slightly modified version of a French hunting song called Pour aller à la chasse faut être matineux. Perhaps that hunting song had the same melody as Het Wilhelmus, but that would be a strange way of mentioning that.  The melody of Het Wilhelmus does mostly fit the pacing of the words.


 * However, the Dutch version of this article suggests that maybe the original melody was different but that German soldiers occupying the Netherlands during WWII sung it to the melody of Het Wilhelmus to make a political point. That story does seem to make sense; can anyone confirm it? --Saforrest (talk) 17:12, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Wrong translation
The translation is clearly wrong in some parts and was obviously not written by someone who has appropriate knowledge of German in order to translate a difficult poetic text like this one. For instance: Ihr Sterne, seid uns Zeugen, die ruhig niederschaun! is an oath meaning "Be our witnesses, you stars looking down calmly!". It is currently translated as "Your stars to us are creations that calmly gaze down upon us", which doesn't make any sense, and it's completely impossible to deduce this from the original. Any German speaker, or English speaker with a higher level of German, will agree. Please correct those mistakes! I wrote a corrected translation myself, but it was undone by a BOT just seconds after. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.197.169 (talk) 00:36, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

"Gefährten unserer Jugend, ihr Bilder besserer Zeit, Die uns zu Männertugend und Liebestod geweiht" is wrongly translated. It should be "Companions of our youth, your visions of a better time, inspire us to manly virtue and loving death." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.143.253.57 (talk) 12:53, 7 September 2018 (UTC)