Talk:Will Smith/Archive 2

Request for Mediation
Mary888 has initiated a request for mediation, which I have declined. I feel that this is a non-issue, and once Mary888 proves that this is a major fansite using reliable sources, as well as giving it a reason why it should be considered for entry into WP over all other fansites, I will happily put my support behind allowing it in. The request can be viewed here. HawkerTyphoon 17:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

There's a problem: you say I have to prove that it's a major fansite USING RELIABLE SOURCES but using reliable sources makes sense for proving some facts in the content of an article BUT there are no reliable sources for proving that a fansite is one of the best because it's an opinion...

It's an opinion. You're right. Therefore, you can't prove it's a major fansite. Therefore, it can't go in the external links section. Sorry! HawkerTyphoon 18:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, Alexa rankings may be useful in this situation. If it can be proved that one particular fansite far outranks all the other fansites, then there might be some justification for including the link.  (Note that External links does permit linking to one major fansite.) —Psychonaut 14:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

If I follow your argument, none fansite could be mentionned in any page. However:If there are many fansites for the topic covered by the article, then providing a link to one major fansite (and marking the link as such) may be appropriate

Again, why not submit the problem to the comittee of arbitration?

Ok, I add again the site. Do what you want!

It seems you were right HawkerTyphoon but I wonder if a fansite with no lyrics, no pictures of the artist and no links to buy the cds can still be qualified of a "fansite"... In any case, it would be an austere site!... But if I'm wrong, I'm wrong...


 * It is highly likely that ArbCom will reject this case. This could and should have been resolved on this talk page, and using Alexa rankings seems at least an objective way of going about this. Taking this from a request for mediation to a request for arbitration just one day after the mediation request was made also dooms the request for arbitration as frivolous at this time. Work it out, people; using light, not heat. --Durin 14:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The fansite I mention ( wwww.jazzyjefffreshprince.com ) is the biggest fansite about Will! The site is very informative. It is really complete! And the forum has the more members among all the will smith fansites! Prove the contrary! I give you the right to delete my link if you do it! Moreover, I think you all should verify BEFORE suppressing blindly. Thanks.


 * Hey HawkerTyphoon I am the owner of http://www.jazzyjefffreshprince.com and I believe it deserves to be listed in the links of Will Smith's wikipedia page. I have run this site by myself for 11 years, it's very successful and yes its in the top 20 in google for a will smith search. This site has over 400 pages of information. It has lyrics to every Will Smith track released(over 130 tracks) it has album pages on every album(11+ albums) it has over 70 interviews with Will Smith and Jazzy Jeff, it has full discography, it has the largest Will Smith community with over 1800 members and 150, 000 posts. It has the only will smith podcast which has had over 60, 000 downloads. It has multiple biographies and movie pages and fresh prince of bel air information. It has a gallery of 800 images that have been viewed 300, 000 times. It recieves 90,000 visits a month. If you are Will Smith fan I can't believe you wouldn't know its the number one will smith site on the net. Will Smith has personally thanked me for my work on the web site and instructed his people to look at my web site when doing his official site. If you need any more proof that is a reputable fan site deserving to be listed in the links just e-mail me. User:HieroHero 17:43, 04 March 2007 (UTC)

MIT
No scholarship, actually.
 * My mother, who worked for the School Board of Philadelphia, had a friend who was the admissions officer at MIT. I had pretty high SAT scores and they needed black kids, so I probably could have gotten in. But I had no intention of going to college.

Actually he did have a scholarship just do some research on all albums life biographies and Internet
 * MIT doesn't give merit scholarships.

I don't understand why the article is constantly being edited back to saying how Will Smith turned down a scholarship/admission to MIT. He never even applied! A recent article proves this: (2nd page of article online) http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1165729697320830.xml?starledger?colwhi&coll=1&thispage=2

Seriously you need to stop the Will Smith's death rumour.
This is going too far, I might not be an admin, but I'm a human that has freedom to voice his opinion. You guys seriously need to stop doing rumours that Will Smith's died recently. It's not funny, it's just stupid.

How would you like if you saw famous article on the internet telling you that you recently died horrible horrible death? Will Smith is NOT a fantasy character, he does have feelings, and he might go to wikipedia sometimes.

Seriously this needs to end. Death rumours are not funny, in fact they are stupid. It's something to take serious action against.

I hope you will stop with these Will's Death rumours. TheBlazikenMaster 22:00, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess I have to bump this, because recent changes was about what I'm ranting about. TheBlazikenMaster 08:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah this is retarded. Never heard of protected vandalism. 24.205.46.249 02:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have, but that doesn't stop vandals for posting false rumours. But I made a hidden message. Hopefully that will stop them. TheBlazikenMaster 07:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, anonymous does not forget
 * I'm glad it's protected. TheBlazikenMaster 10:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Personal life section in need of serious revision; multiple false statements
The personal life section is in need of serious revision as it seems to contain entirely incorrect information. The "Raptor Jesus" quote should be removed. The block quote that follows cannot be found anywhere else on the Internet, and is an obvious fraud. The following quote about Will Smith being reviled by 76ers fans is not true, as evidenced in this interview from ESPN. I am a resident of Philadelphia, and also know firsthand that statement is not true. Nap16 01:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Nap16

Needs More Info.
This page needs more information and needs to revise its contents because it has many false statemants. For example, it needs more information on his celebrity career like movies he's done, people that work for him, people related to him, affiliates, companies, etc. P.S. I need information about his executive assistant. If anybody has any information please edit this. I need it because I'm doing a project for my marketing class.71.115.219.203 00:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC)Kefkaboi47@yahoo.com

I have an important request.
This page needs to be protected so that only registered members of Wikipedia can edit it. These vandals are trouble. If this continues there will be too many unneeded revisions. Which makes viewing history longer. Of course even vandal-free articles get's revisions every so often, but this is getting out of hands. This article needs protection, who is with me? TheBlazikenMaster 20:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * A reply is seriously needed, I'm not surpriced people ignored since I forgot to sign. I should stop being in hurry all the time. After all I'm only 18 and have many years left of my life. TheBlazikenMaster 20:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The vandalism on this article is annoying, but not (yet) enough to warrant semi protection. Garion96 (talk) 00:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've just counted and I think that this page should be protected. 16 of the last 50 edits at this time have been reverts and 18 of the last 50 have been vandalism edits. That leaves 16 actual edits that can be considered of any possible merit. The time wasted reverting vandalism could be far better spent improving articles. You can't say its the odd occasion, its not, its frequent and it's wasting our time I say Protect. GQsm 02:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't there be a permenant protection? Without the protection the page get's vandalismed like madness. TheBlazikenMaster 18:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to know the page is re-protected. TheBlazikenMaster 01:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Musician vs Actor
Internationally, speaking as an European, he is more renowned as an actor, not a musician. I think the infobox should be changed. --Flvg94 15:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. It's funny to see a musician infobox in this article, with no mention of his roles in films and TV. His real success in music came after being internationally famous as an actor. So much, indeed, that many people outside the USA would say he's an actor who entered the music scene, and not the other way around. --euyyn 22:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Just a question, is it ok IF I just remove the music infobox right now? TheBlazikenMaster 22:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, but I agree. I never knew Will Smith was a rapper until I read that article, I'm a big fan of Will Smith, he's been my hero before I visited wikipiedia. TheBlazikenMaster 22:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think he should have 2 infoboxes (1 as a musician and 1 as an actor). The actor infobox should be under the career section. The Arnold Schwarzenegger article has 2 or 3 infoboxes (1 as a politician, 1 as an actor, and 1 as a bodybuilder-person) --Sli723 20:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

South park appearance.
I was wondering if appearance of Will Smith in this episode would be worth adding.

The reason I'm on the talk page before adding is, is because I don't know if I should add it, or where. Yes, I'm sure it's THIS Will Smith.

He wasn't in cameo, his appearance was the biggest out of all the rich people in this episode. I barrowed a South Park DVD from my friend. I can do some research, after all I barrowed it for one week. I don't know if I should make a section, or add it to already existing sections.

On the Tom Cruise page, there is a mention of his South Park appearance, even a picture, so I see no reason to not add Will Smith.

What do you guys think? Disscuss. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheBlazikenMaster (talk • contribs) 12:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

early life
Will Smith went to West Catholic High School and was kicked out before going to Overbrook he was kicked out for being a trouble maker, this is referenced from the Lasallian brother who had him kicked out... he regretted it he said haha —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.162.184.240 (talk) 01:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC).
 * Now seriously, is that notable? We don't have list on how many jobs/schools he got fired from/was kicked out from. TheBlazikenMaster 01:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Can't swim?
Hes said that he can't swim, but in Bad Boys and Hitch he's in deep water. So is him not being able to swim bullshit?--69.113.131.124 22:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know, is it really worth adding to the article? And you don't have to get the ability to do something in movies, for example, the actor that plays Superman can't fly, but in the movie Superman returns he flies, it's done with special effects. TheBlazikenMaster 23:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Filmography
This section also needs info about what his roles are. I did it on few, Bad Boys II (as Mike Lowery), Hitch (as Hitch), I, Robot (as a cop) and Shark Tale (as the fish). But we need more. He was in so many movies, and it will take me long time to watch them all to find out name of all the characters he was in the movies. So that's why I need you guys. I can't finish this alone. TheBlazikenMaster 13:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It isn't that I like bumping up the discussion, but I really need you guys. Finding name of the characters Will played is not an easy task. TheBlazikenMaster 21:13, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiTable
I made a table, hopefully that will make jobs easier. Common you guys, I really need you, currently only seven roles are listed. I really need your help guys. At least responde. TheBlazikenMaster 19:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I must say Linkracer did hell of a job, nice work. Now we only need five more. TheBlazikenMaster 19:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Bad Boys III
Do we need to have this entry in the filmography section considering that no official announcement was made about the movie? It makes sense to have Michael Bay's comment in the "Bad Boys" page, but that was just a comment and nothing more. Any thoughts? Nbala13 20:16, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

New pic.
We need a new photo of Will Smith, what do you guys think? TheBlazikenMaster 13:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Calabasas, CA
Under residences, someone should add Calabasas because I know he lives there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.81.230.211 (talk • contribs)
 * "Because I know he lives here" is not a valid reason. We need proof. I have difficulties believing that. So please show us some source. TheBlazikenMaster 17:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

he's actually not muslim
Will Smith HAS NOT converted to Islam. Someone wrote that his religion is Islam, and that the source said that he converted after filming "Ali" but I checked in www.adherents.com and he is one of three people FALSELY said to have converted. So, I guess he's not Muslim, he's not a Scientologist. Please please please correct it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.81.153.130 (talk) 09:25, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

His father.
I was thinking would it be notable to mention something about Will's father somewhere in the article? It could help with his life story. TheBlazikenMaster 13:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC) will smith is the best superstar voted by hollywood.he also won the noble prize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.212.44.158 (talk) 00:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And how is that relevant to his father? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 00:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Erm...
Can we find a better picture for the guy? Something more recent?

Why? The picture that's there is great, it's very good quality. It's your choice though. - Sam15

Yeah, but it's basically a picture of his back. 71.106.127.173 (talk) 05:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Albums
Why is there only one album listed? I would like to know before I go ahead and post any others. Thanks. Ravidgemole 23:01, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

His first solo album "Big Willie Style" is 9x Platinum, not 10x Platinum. Correct this please. Check RIAA.com then gold and platinum then search able database. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.243.96 (talk) 03:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Unsourced Statement (New Album)
This article states that Will Smith will be releasing a new album in 2007. Aside from the grammatical problems in the sentence that says this, it is unsourced and has no bases. Please change.
 * I removed it, since (as mentioned) no citation is mentioned and also, he said he may quit music, so chances of a new album is slim. --esanchez, Camp Lazlo fan! 02:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well he's dead now so forget about the new album. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CombatRock (talk • contribs) 02:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Not true, some vandals just made up that rumour. But it is true that it won't come. I think someone said while editing that Will Smith said himself that he won't make more. I haven't seen interview, but still, someone else must have typed it in edit summary. I asume it's true, not sure. TheBlazikenMaster 07:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

parents just dont understand
I think that came before girls ain't nothing but trouble, at the end jazzy says:man first your parents just don't understand, then you having these crazy nightmares so by the looks of it parents just dont undertsand came first. anyone?

Very optimistic POV? "Will Smith is arguably the biggest star in today's pop culture" - I'm a HUGE (and I mean HUUUGE) fan of the guy, but c'mon, he's not the biggest star.
 * That depends on how one defines "biggest". He's known worldwide for his music, TV Show and and Movies. His face and name is also recognizable worldwide. He commands some of the biggest fees in Hollywood and is seemingly beloved by all ethnic groups. Pattersonc 20:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, the song appeared later years. The version of "Girls Ain't Nothing But Trouble" was the 1988 remix, which is very commonly found in the albums now. The orignal was on 1986. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Esanchez7587 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC).