Talk:William Guy Carr

Wiki Censorship is Alive and Well!!
I have tried to clean-up some of the "DIS-INFORMATION" on Commander William Guy Carr. This is clearly a "Smear Piece" against him. It seems some people are clearly interested in this page, because as soon as I do any change it is near instantly reverted back by someone who has made no contribution other than to maintain the falsehoods upon the current page. I guess I was told right when told wikipedia is a place for false propagandist's.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.127.213.147 (talk) 23:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I tried to look at the reference to the Web version of the Pike to Mazzini letter. It seems that Wiki is wrong in its reference. In the Pawns in the Game (1956) there is the following text:

On August 15, 1871, Pike told Mazzini that after World War Three is ended, those who aspire to undisputed world domination will provoke the greatest social cataclysm the world has ever known. We quote his own written words (taken from the letter catalogued in the British Museum Library, London, Eng.) : “We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

This is not the three war plan in the Web what Wiki explains. Please correct to the actual reference. The Web 3WW plan is not from this book by Car. Even though conspiracy theories may be nuts, still make the references correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.52.63 (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I corrected some of the text: the references to the web 3WW plan, and the statement that Carr would express Manichean views, naturally Carr is Christian and the wold conspiracy is Manichean according to Carr, a very common view in all of these conspiracy books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.52.63 (talk) 18:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Archiving?
I see that old discussions have been moved to archives... no problem with that... except I can not seem to locate the archive. Where is it? Blueboar 12:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * In the archive folder on your right. 216.246.224.128 00:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, connecting : Eristik 00:29, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

anti-semitism
Should it not be mentioned in the beginning that he promoted anti-Semitic conspiracy theories? There is barely any mention of this at all in the article, yet this seems to be a big part of his legacy. - Concerned Semite — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.64.177.173 (talk) 13:57, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I think it's unfair and a mistake to call William Guy Carr Anti-Semitic because if you refer to page 6 of his booklet 'The Conspiracy To Destroy All Existing Governments And Religions' (available at archive.org) he                 specifically warns against making this very same assumption. Of course a criminal of ANY race or faith, including Jewish cannot use the defence of Racial Discrimination or Anti-Semitism if his detractors accuse him of crimes that have been proven to be committed. I now include the two paragraphs I consider very relevant to my opiinion. Pay particular attention to the 3rd paragraph.

Page 6 of 28:

"The purpose of those who direct the Luciferian conspiracy is to prevent the masses — The Goyim; the Human                  Cattle—from knowing the whole truth because they know that if we did we would automatically accept God's                   plan.

The Luciferians therefore rely upon their ability to lie to and deceive those they plan to enslave body, mind, and soul, into believing anything but the truth. That is the reason Christ referred to the Synagogue of Satan, who direct the Luciferian conspiracy upon this earth as 'Sons of the Devil, whose lusts ye shall do. He was a                 murderer from the beginning. He knows not the truth because the truth is not in Him.'

We must also remember that the words 'Synagogue of Satan' do not, repeat not, mean the Jews because Christ also made it perfectly clear that the Synagogue of Satan 'Are those who call themselves Jews, but are not, and do lie.' The Synagogue of Satan is composed of men and women of many nationalities which have their origin in                                    Cain, Eve's son. My knowledge of the Luciferian Creed has been acquired by reading all the literature I could obtain dealing with the subject and by reading and studying translations of the writings of his Eminence Caro y Rodriguez, Cardinal of Santiago, Chile. I pass on that knowledge in order that you may decide the issue one way or the other." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.248.36 (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

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