Talk:Willy Stöwer

Willy Stöwer
Can it be confirmed that he is a survivor? on the RMS titanic page, he is not listed.

as painted by Willy Stöwer?
The caption on the image: ...as painted by Willy Stöwer -- is misleading at best. This image has been altered and is not "as painted by Willy Stöwer". Most notably it was never painted by Willy Stöwer; it was a B&W print from a wood engraving created by him for the German publication Die Gartenlaube Illustrirtes Familienblatt. -- Note an original print 21:45, 22 April 2012 (UTC) An accurate description might be: "A colorized rendition derived from an engraving by Willy Stöwer." (Caption clarified accordingly)08:38, 22 April 2012 (UTC) Works such as Der Untergang der Titanic (1912) are lithographs created from hand-etched wood engravings, and printed using ink. ~E 23:37, 22 April 2012 (UTC); ~E:22:32, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Image reverted to original (caption modified accordingly) ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 01:59, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Author
Willy Stöwer is credited as author of the following:
 * Zur see mit Pinsel und Palette; Publisher: Braunschweig [etc.] G. Westermann, 1929 [Autobiographical]


 * Deutsche U-Boot-Taten, in Bild und Wort. (Prof. Willy Stöwer); Publisher: F. Bruckmann, München, 1916; "Published by the Imperial Navy Foundation" (Reichsmarinestiftung)
 * Der Deutsche Segelsport. F. A. Brockhaus, Leipzig; 1905
 * Marine ABC; Publisher: Spamer, 1901
 * Deutschlands Kriegsflotte: Mit Benutzung amtlichen Materials nach original Aquarellen; Publisher: Kutzner & Berger; Berlin, 1898
 * Deutsche Flottenmanöver: Nach Aquarellen u. Studien; Westermann, Braunschweig, 1900.

In addition, he is credited as co-author of many other books, such as:


 * Die deutsche Flotte in großer Zeit; Scheer, Admiral Reinhard und Willy Stöwer; Publisher: Georg Westermann, 1926
 * Kaiser Wilhelm II. Und die Marine; Wislicenus, Admiralitastrat Georg, Illustrated by Stower, Professor Willy. Publisher: August Scherl, 1912

Also, the following books written about Willy Stöwer:
 * ''Willy Stöwer. Marinemaler der Kaiserzeit. Leben und Werk by Jörg-Michael Hormann; Publisher: Koehlers Verl [Biography] @(Library of congress)

Author: Jörg M Hormann; Deutsches Marinemuseum Wilhelmshaven.; et al
 * "Kunst braucht Gunst!" : Willy Stöwer, Marinemaler und Illustrator der Kaiserzeit : ein Leben mit Aufstieg in die höchsten Kreise : Willy Stöwer nur ein politischer Marinemaler? : eine grosse Villa für einen Besucher der night kam : Stöwers Weltkrieg in Grau und Schwarz

~Eric F 98.26.28.41 (talk) 08:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC) 18:21, 30 April 2012 (UTC)~Eric F98.26.28.41 (talk) 15:21, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Original research?
The following seems obvious, but might be considered OR. -- Include?
 * His numerous nautical paintings were done in pencil, watercolor, gouache, tempera, oils, and mixed media, often combining pencil, watercolor and gouache.

~E 184.76.225.106 (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Misc.
~Comments, suggestions, corrections, etc., encouraged! Thanks, ~Eric F 98.26.28.41 (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Considering adding Legacy section which would include "Der Untergang..." narrative, along with examples of museums and exhibition(s).
 * there was a Stöwer exhibition "Kunst braucht Gunst!" organized by Jörg M Hormann, which I believe was at Deutsches Marinemuseum Wilhelmshaven in 2000, and possibly another museum (forgot which one, believe in Wolgast)-- possibly 2002. Needs verification.
 * "Kunst braucht Gunst!" literally translates as "Art needs a Favor!" -- but suspect it is  idiomatic and would translate better as "Art deserves favor!" -- as in: "Imperial favor" (?)
 * Since the lead mentions the 'Untergang', and that picture is the reason most people would be coming to this article, I believe the image would be best with the lead; but I realize this would be non-standard for artist's pages.
 * I wasn't sure about putting "professor" in the lead, although it seems to be an honorary title, I have found no source to confirm this. But "professor" as a title is something that I'm not very familiar with, and am not sure of the "honorary" part (unable to verify). Presumably he wasn't a university instructor (as far as I know).
 * "...originally trained as a metalworker" -- was this translated from the de.WP article? Would that be from: "...erlernte zunächst den Beruf eines Schlossers." ?
 * Doesn't the 'Signature' parameter on Infobox:artist work?
 * Would the following set-up be acceptable: Lead / Biography / Career / Publications / Legacy
 * The date on the Cap Trafalgar poster is uncertain -- based on conjecture. (Note: he could and did create paintings of ships prior to their construction based on blueprints, etc.)
 * Missing information: birth name, education, family

My ability to work on this will be very limited for an undetermined length of time -- might need to be "semi-retired" from WP. ~Eric F 98.26.28.41 (talk) 19:45, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Icebergs
Removed: "...there were no icebergs close-by during the sinking..." -- Evidence and testimony indicates otherwise, e.g.: According to Captain Arthur Henry Rostron of the Cunard Line's Carpathia, the ship that was first on the scene, more than twenty large bergs were observed.
 * From survivors:
 * Elmer Taylor: "I felt the boat rise and it seemed to me that it was riding over the ice. I ran out on deck and then I could see ice. It was a veritable sea of ice and the boat was rocking over it. I should say that parts of the iceberg were 80 feet high and had been broken into sections probably by our ship."


 * Mrs Lucien P Smith: "We went three quarters of a mile away, and through the clear night I could see icebergs all around us. It was like a weird polar stage setting."


 * GENERAL NEWS. AN APPALLING OCEAN TRAGEDY. DETAILS OF THE LOSS OF THE TITANIC. HEROISM OF MEN AND WOMEN. 1585 LIVES LOST. LONDON, Tuesday. The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866 - 1939) Saturday 27 April 1912, page 37


 * The Titanic Iceberg: A Photo Gallery of Suspects
 * Titanic information / Recovery -- Maritime Museum of the Atlantic / Nova Scotia Museum, Halifax
 * Etc., etc., etc... ~E 74.60.29.141 (talk) 15:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC), 16:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)