Talk:Wolfgang Paalen

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Describing monarchy as "moribund" is POV. Furthermore, "fumages" should not be capitalised. --Daniel C. Boyer 19:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the Austro-Hungarian Empire was probably pretty moribund after 1900, but I tend to agree, so have removed that descriptor. But I'm not too sure about capitalising fumages. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:58, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I'm suggesting that DYN (journal) should be merged with this page as it contains primarily information about Paalen and his theories, which it would be unfortunate to lose in the event of the journal being judged insufficiently notable. Alternatively, someone could supply references to answer the notability issue. Robina Fox (talk) 23:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * This discussion is clearly moribund. ---  RepublicanJacobite  TheFortyFive 18:27, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Suicide disputed
He committed suicide in 1959 in Taxco/Mexico.

[This last is not so - my mother, Kate Frank, nursed Wolfgang Paalen when he was terminally ill with tuberculosis, between 1942 and 1944. I was 7-8 years old at the time, and my mother used to take me to his house sometimes, and his wife Alice would look after me in their garden, which was full of exotic plants and Mexican archeological pieces, while my mother attended to Wolfgang Paalen. He died soon afterwards, I remember clearly my mother talking with a friend about his final moments, in which she was with him.] This comment was made by 86.157.119.61 (talk) on 10 August 2010. It has been been moved here from the article, where it was originally placed.

There must be an error. Paalen definetely died in 1959, apart from the proofs for his death, there is enormous corresponence with and from Paalen until the year 1959 in different archives —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.220.104.75 (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

The article was reedited recently, disposing already the newer biographical material, about to be published by Andreas Neufert in his book on Paalen (Auf Liebe und Tod) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.29.129 (talk) 20:50, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


 * The articles at Wolfgang Paalen, Wolfgang Paalen, Wolfgang Paalen and Паален, Вольфганг all give the same date and cause of death. The supporting source in the fr:wiki article is: José Pierre, Paalen Domai, Paris, Editions Galanis, 1970, p. 91. (The de:wiki article also tells us that he suffered from bipolar disorder throughout his life, although it does not give a direct source is support). Martinevans123 (talk) 21:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I wonder if the 2014 biography by Andreas Neufert makes any mention of Paalen's struggle with bipolar disorder. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:53, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I respond directly: yes, going through the correspondences and family archives, it is evident that W.P.´s mother was manic-depressive and inherited this disposition to her sons, at least three of them. The third eldest brother died in a mental clinic, the second eldest as well. Paalen was a clinical case at least after 1955 or 56 with long and critical attacks of depression. Unfortunately it goes on, one of the daughters of his youngest brother is bipolar as well.
 * Thanks. Can any of this be found in the 2014 Neufert book (or any other reliable source)? Obviously, "correspondences and family archives" are unlikely to be in the public domain. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:12, 19 December 2014 (UTC) p.s. please could you try and remember to sign your comments, thanks.

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