Talk:Women migrant workers from developing countries

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This article needs more work. First, please address all the issues flagged in the article's opening header. Second, the lead paragraph is too long to be useful. It should be no more that 4-5 lines and convey the main issues in the rest of the article/say why this issue is important, so that someone interested in reading on is motivated to continue or jumps to the section of interest. The organization and section titles need attn. The first two sections are fine. However, then there are some nonparallelisms: "Women in China," is reporting on rural-urban migration within China, not to elsewhere, whereas "Care workers" section is about migration from developing countries. You could keep the internal migration discussion but a) the section needs to be retitled as "Manufacturing workers" and include discussion of women migrating internationally to do manufacturing work. I think the Pearson article on Burmese workers in Thailand is a case of manufacturing work. Also, this section only draws on China Blue, the scholarly counterpart would be Pun Ngai (2007). (I think the reference to Jieyu Liu in the last paragraph was meant to be to Pun Ngai.) The "Consequences" section should have "Remittances" and "Changing gender roles" as subsections. There are other consequences you could add, e.g. the care crisis back home. Rosewarne's argument is not specific to remittances but also about working conditions, the fact that temporariness reduces the chances of improving working conditions of care workers. His discussion could be integrated in a number of sections of the article. A minor point: do not refer to Basok and Piper as "Feminist economics authors." They are widely published, it is just here you are referring to a particular article of theirs. So, just providing the citation as the end of the sentence should be sufficient. That said, you can and should refer to feminist economics as an approach. "Feminist economists have been prominent in much of the scholarship that examines the nature, causes and consequences of international migration of women from developing countries." and then cite the FE special issue of 18(2), 2012 as source. Finally, I suggest giving a thorough read to the article to improve the flow and writing.BerikG (talk) 15:55, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

statistics
The topic is interesting and relevant, but unfortunately the sources for the statistics on which this is built are poor or inexistent. The article prefers to embark on rhetorics on the supposed consequences or implications, but it would be useful to take the trouble to actually cite some estimates on what is actually going on before going into Feminist Economics. But clearly whoever wrote this article isn't interested in facts but in interpretations. The "191 million migrant workers registered in 2005" are a joke. The number is (a) woefully outdated and (b) is an estimate (nothing to do with "registration") of migrants (not "migrant workers" but international migration in general including refugees). The current estimate is at 216 million, so why not use that. But why use it when it says noting about "women migrant workers from developing countries"? Also what is this supposed increase, specifically of women migrant workers who emigrate from developing countries to high-income countries? Are there any actual estimates on this? The World Bank gives estimates on percentage of women immigrants per region (close to 50% throughout) but does not distinguish the origin of these women. So 50% of immigrants to European countries are women, but this includes women from developing countries just as well as women migrating from one EU country to another. The World Bank cites 73 million migrants from developing to high-income country but neither does it give an estimate on what percentage are women, nor on what percentage are actually migrant workers. Also, what about people recognized as refugees, who will naturally also seek work under exactly the same conditions as migrant workers? Do they count as migrant workers or not?

Please cite the relevant data if you have it, or bother to look for it before you "interpret" it.

So, if there are 73 million migrant workers from developing countries who live in high-income countries, and if about half of them are women (source?), then we are looking at about 36 million people who qualify as the subject of this article. Naturally, they will need to be broken down further depending on target country. Cleary, the situation of Sri Lankan women in Saudi Arabia is different from that of, say, Ecuadorian women in the Netherlands. As there are hundreds of such bilateral combinations, you will need to rely on secondary sources to sift out the most notable ones or to come up with a meaningful grouping, otherwise you are just reduced to citing random case studies that popped up on google. --dab (𒁳) 11:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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Choose topic and find sources 3/14
I have planned on adding a few sections to the Women migrant workers from developing countries article. The first one that should be added is a background to give general knowledge on what will be discussed throughout. With this, I feel like there should also be a terminology page that should be incoporated. This is crucial because there could be some words that are used throughout that one may not be too familiar with. Aside from sections, I also think there should be more countries added to the manufacturing workers section. I believe that adding more countries will help enrich the article. The same would go for the immigration/emigration of other countries. Furthermore, I believe there should also be a section on contributions that were made throughout. I believe this is something that is important to add because it shows a different side of the women migrant workers.

Sources: Gender and Migration: Why are Women more Vulnerable? http://graduateinstitute.ch/files/live/sites/iheid/files/sites/genre/shared/Genre_docs/2865_Actes2004/10-m.kawar.pdf

Women migrant workers’ contributions to development http://www.unwomen.org/en/digital-library/publications/2017/7/women-migrant-workers-contributions-to-development

At what cost? Women migrant workers, remittances and development http://www.unwomen.org/en/digital-library/publications/2017/2/women-migrant-workers-remittances-and-development

“Contributions of women migrant workers to development: going beyond remittances” https://gfmd.org/files/documents/gfmd_turkey2014-2015_tm3_background_note.pdf

Women Migrant Workers' Contributions to Development http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/5a1bfcce4.pdf

Women migrant workers: seizing opportunities, upholding rights http://www.ilo.org/global/about-the-ilo/newsroom/features/WCMS_098491/lang--en/index.htm

Migrant Women, Women Migrant Workers http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/CMW/SideEvent2016/PatrickTaran.pdf

The Female Face of Migration http://www.caritas.org/includes/pdf/backgroundmigration.pdf

JOrtz (talk) 03:01, 15 March 2018 (UTC)JOrtz

Editing article
Hi! I am considering editing this article as part of a class project. I am hoping to include some of the existing research on how various specific government policies (such as the Kefala system in the Middle East) and societal discrimination can affect women migrant workers, promote worker exploitation, and exclude them from social, economic and political participation in their new communities. I also hope to include more information on how this impacts their country of origins, as well as the children they may have left behind at home. I have included some of the sources I looked at on my user talk page. Let me know what you think! Emmaaa00 (talk) 10:10, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Thoughts on article
Hi! I have been thinking about how to improve this article, and would like to try to reorganize the article, explore human rights issues such as reproductive rights abuses in greater detail, include information on government policies that affect women migrant workers, and add a greater variety of examples from countries that have high numbers of women migrant workers. I have a more detailed proposal discussing my proposed changes in my sandbox page. Emmaaa00 (talk) 02:18, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Peer Review
Overall, I thought you did a great job of developing this article. You maintained a neutral tone, used a variety of scholarly sources, and added meaningful information about women migrant workers in various regions of the world and their economic and social impacts. I especially liked how you split the impacts sections by origin countries and destination countries. Nevertheless, I would improve the lead to better reflect your new information and the overall topic of this article. In addition to fixing minor grammatical mistakes, I would further develop a few of the subsections in the “Women migrant workers by region” section and add more information about other forms of work to the “Gender-specific division of labor” section to make this article more inclusive. Lastly, I would add more images to improve the readability of this information. - Prashanth314 (talk) 04:53, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

PJHC Peer Review
I think that this article addresses an important topic and does a great job using multiple scholarly sources. However the section titles, especially the one on immigration by region, can be confusing. I addition, some of the language is bulky, and while while the content is presented in a non-expert friendly way, the use of unnecessary words interferes with the readability. Overall, nonetheless, the article did a good job addressing issues that appeared to be previously present. Happy editing! Claudia Paine22 (talk) 16:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Creating an article based on this one
Hello! My name is Elizabeth Gamez. I am interested on creating an article that this one can be the parent of. The article I propose to create is the one where the focus is on Latin American women. I have linked some resources I plan to use on my page. Please go check it out and let me know what you think. EliGamez (talk) 01:16, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

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