Talk:Yakovlev Yak-1

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The text of this article needs a complete rewrite for English, grammar, and historical details. I'll get to it eventually (just finished Yak-3... can't stand anymore Yaks for now) unless someone else wants to do it. - Emt147 Burninate!  00:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I ended up rewriting much of the article. Specs were changed to Yak-1b as the most representative type (Yak-1M was a Yak-3 prototype and as such had little to do with production Yak-1's). I-33 was taken out of the variants list for now because I couldn't find any information on it (and some places list it as a Yak-3 prototype anyway). - Emt147 Burninate!  08:45, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * excellent! few links for I-33 i could find:

--jno 10:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * references I-33 as "Yak-3 M-106 (experimental)".
 * I-33 - small series in 1943. retired as unreliable for engine faults.
 * english
 * english


 * So that's two for Yak-3 and two for Yak-1. I think we should hold out until something more definitive than websites with uncited sources comes along. - Emt147 Burninate!  17:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
 * yes, Stepanets and Shavrov give no point.

Just for fun: Yak-3 flight manual --jno 11:07, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I note that the first paragraph of the development section says that the Soviet government ordered the design of the Yak-1 because the Yak-4 impressed them, but the article for the Yak-1 says it was introduced in 1940, whereas the Yak-4 was introduced in 1941. Possible factual error? Bpogi 01:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

It is an error. Stalin was impressed with BB-22 fast bomber, first military aircraft designed in Yakovlev Design Bureau. First prototype was ready in spring 1939, and it was 100 km/h faster than Tupolev SB-2 bomber with the same powerplant (two M-103 engines). I think this is the reason why Soviet government ordered I-26/Yak-1 in July 1939. State test of BB-22 began at the same time and it soon turned out that aircraft had to be redesigned in order to meet requirements of Soviet air force. It was sent into production as Yak-2, but only 111 were built, because it became heavier and slower and wasn't better than older bombers. It received more powerful m-105 engines and after some modifications it was named Yak-4. Again, only 90 were built. The last yak-4 was delivered in april 1941. At the same time much better design was available- Petlakow Pe-2, besides Yakovlev bureau was involved in Yak-1 development and that is why production of yak-4 was stopped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rynek (talk • contribs) 21:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

There is some serious discrepancy between the lead in and the body of the article
The lead-in praises Yak-1 so much it reads almost like an advertisement for the plane, yet the "Design and Development" section describes an almost total disaster, and even implies that the plane would never enter production if it wasn't for Yakovlev's familiarity with Stalin. 46.215.134.86 (talk) 05:47, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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