Template talk:Baseball pitches

Splitter and forkball
I don't think these pitches should be labeled as fastballs. They are understood to be off-speed pitches, most similar to standard changeup. As I wrote in the split-finger fastball article, "According to PITCHf/x, the average four-seam fastball from a right-handed pitcher in 2010 was 92 mph, while the average splitter was 85 mph and the average changeup 83 mph." -- Jprg1966  (talk)  07:51, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Submarine
This does not belong as a type of pitch. It is a type of delivery. I am therefore going to delete it from the template. -- Jprg1966  (talk)  07:52, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Forkball
Shouldn't forkball be listed under breaking balls? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Setenzatsu (talk • contribs) 19:21, 3 July 2019 (UTC)