Template talk:Ethnic enclaves

Ybor City entry
Ybor City was built and populated by a unique mix of Cuban, Spanish, Sicilian, and Eastern European Jewish immigrants, so it doesn't fit easily into any of the categories on the template. I filed it under "Latin American" because the majority of the residents were from Cuba. However, listing it as "Latin Quarter" is improper and inaccurate, since that term is not the name of the community and it doesn't include some of the ethnicities represented therein. Zeng8r (talk) 02:44, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

template size / cuts
This template has certainly grown quite a bit since I first came across it a few months ago, and I could see trimming it or organizing it better. However, removing the entire list of enclaves seems a bit drastic. I don't have a particularly strong opinion on the matter, but I do think that a huge change like the one user:Yerevantsi made (and I reverted) needs some discussion before going forward. So... discuss amongst yourselves. Zeng8r (talk) 02:14, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * , I've simply replaced the list with a smaller one because of these reasons:


 * 1) it is too long (for a template) and continues getting longer
 * 2) anyone can arbitrarily add an enclave without giving sources (unlike articles, where unsourced claims can be tagged as such)
 * 3) why list every single enclave in this template? what are articles for? -- Ե րևանցի  talk  02:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree that it's gotten too large and unwieldy, so there should be some filtering and weeding out. On the other hand, it's nice to have a template with all of the enclave articles in one place so you could bounce from one to the next, comparing and contrasting along the way. One issue is that every enclave article on Wikipedia could be stuffed into this one template. Maybe it should be split up into different templates by country or continent, as in "ethnic enclaves in the United States" or "ethnic enclaves in Europe", etc. Zeng8r (talk) 02:34, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Why not just list those ethnic groups (I've found 14) that have articles of their own listing their respective enclaves? Wikipedia templates are not to serve as articles as far as I know. I don't think it's reasonable to list enclaves in the template, because as I said above, they are added arbitrarily (and many of them by IP as seen in the template history). -- Ե րևանցի talk  02:51, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Make the sections hideable/collapsable? Probably straightforward enough to someone who knows the relevant table syntax. Ideally have it so sections could be unhidden as needed when the template's included.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 02:58, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Could you please kindly explain the point of listing tens (or hundreds, if we include all) enclaves in this template? Why not simply list the ethnic gorups and anyone who is interested in finding out this or that ethnic group's enclaves can click on it and explore further in the respective article. -- Ե րևանցի  talk  03:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Template focus
What is the focus of this template intended to be about? As of the most recent revision, this template contains general overviews of ethnic enclaves (e.g. China, Italy, Vietnam) and hyper specific ethnic enclaves in different countries (e.g. Ukraine points to an overview of Ukrainians in Baltimore, US, West indian to places in the US with West Indian communities, Maltese to a now seemingly defunct ethnic enclave in Toronto, Canada, Malaysian to a community in an Australian territory, and Lithuanian to an old Lithuanian community in Baltimore, US. Also Jamaica, NYC is listed as a Jamaican ethnic enclave when it isn't even named after the nation. I think this template should contain only general examples then the links to specific enclaves could be moved to another template or removed entirely. BaduFerreira (talk) 15:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)