Template talk:GNOME

What should this include?
I think the template should only include software that is part of GNOME. If not, it should include another category "3rd party applications". Any comments? ~ 10nitro (talk) 21:06, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The template should consist of the major applications of these Gnome projects. However, that list also includes things like Mozilla and GIMP which are part of Gnome, but not Gnome projects. My opinion is that these are not 3rd party applications because they are part of Gnome, but they are externally developed applications. To get back on your original point: A separate category for these would seem like a good idea.--azior (talk) 14:32, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Why "some" software available for Gnome is preferred against other? This is against philosophy of Gnome ("We promote software freedom"). Either it should include all (130) of the above mentioned Gnome projects or none. Wikifriendly --Xoristzatziki (talk) 07:38, 19 December 2013 (UTC)


 * "Additional 1st and 3rd-party Applications" should contain pretty much any GTK+ software, that has an article on the Wikipedia. The official GNOME wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/DeveloperTools mentiones software, that is NOT part of GNOME, like e.g. http://chipx86.github.io/gtkparasite/ There is no article for Parasite in the Wikipedia, but if there was, IMHO, it still should go into this Navbar because it is quite an important part of the GNOME Developer Tools. User:ScotXW t@lk 08:18, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * See KDE, 3rd party software is added in a single row, to make clear it is not part of the "official" release, though I think it shouldn't be. User:ScotXW t@lk 09:01, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Amarok or VLC media player are not part of KDE, yet in my eyes they should be in KDE. The same is true for many GTK+ applications. Since they are marked as such, what is the harm? User:ScotXW t@lk 13:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * wow, cool, I like Special:Permalink/version 609625228 by IP 85.76.148.6. A good idea. Thank you! User:ScotXW t@lk 21:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Amarok in 3rd-party KDE software. VLC is not KDE software in any sense. Please, stop faking connections where there are none. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 10:31, 24 May 2014 (UTC)


 * How on earth are GIMP and Mozilla (whatever you mean using this company's name) parts of GNOME? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 10:31, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Simply do
Without asking much, there seem to be only few people interested anyway, I simply did: the template now resembles Template:KDE:
 * I added software that is definitely not "official part of GNOME" but is either still very popular like Audacious (software) or stuff that is shipped by default with several distros like Transmission (BitTorrent client).

No matter how you implement it, both templates are AFAIK of limited use. IMO it is not enough to sum up packages into "multimedia", more useful would be sub-categories like simple audioplayer (e.g. Audacious, AlsaPlayer, Decibel, etc) and Audioplayer with database and Videoplayer and then other for stuff like Puddletag as well. But then is makes more sense to distinguish between GTK+ and Qt then between what is "official" part of anything. ScotXW (talk) 14:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

empty links
I would ask everybody to not remove empty links, but rather contribute to create these articles. In case some of the GNOME 3 Core Apps does not deserve an own article, simply create a REDIRECT to the article GNOME or GNOME Core Applications ScotXW (talk) 13:31, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Such redirects defeat the very purpose of the template: GNOME 3 Core Apps are already linked from the group name, and having multiple redirects to the same page from different links within the group makes navigation harder with no benefit. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:33, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No, they don't defeat anything. Don't worry. One point is, to show the existing applications, even though a separate article does not exist yet. Point two being, that I started to create articles, e.g. GNOME Maps, but they were deleted again. User:ScotXW t@lk 13:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * That's not the purpose of templates such as this. It is to link to relevant, separate articles rather than linking to redirects back to the same exact page. If a separate article does not exist yet, it doesn't belong on the template. If the created article was deleted, it certainly doesn't belong on the template as a redirect of redlink because a consensus determined that it doesn't warrant a standalone article. - Aoidh (talk) 16:26, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Non-GNOME software
Please, stop adding non-GNOME software to this template. Neither of Quod Libet (software), Ex Falso (software), Exaile or EasyTag is GNOME software in any possible sense, just like most other GTK+ software. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 10:27, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

3rd-party software
I believe this template should make distinction between GNOME software and 3rd-party software for GNOME. We should not mislead readers by claiming that eg. Banshee and Totem have the same relation to GNOME. Some kind of visual clue would probably work best. Eg. listing 3rd-party software titles in italic font. Any ideas? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 10:36, 24 May 2014 (UTC)