Template talk:Hindu scriptures and texts

Missing Entries
Missing are: dab (&#5839;) 10:20, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Brahmanas
 * Shrautasutras
 * Grhyasutras
 * Aranyakas
 * Praatishakhyas

Giving names uniformly

 * "Mahabharata" vs. "Mahbharata". I wonder why there is a missing "a" letter in the name in the list--compared to the real name (the title of the actual article Mahabharata).--Imz 00:31, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Uniform transliteration in names. Writing ā in Mahabharata (1) should imply writing ī in Bhagavad Gita (2), and so on. The current situation is: (1) is true, (2) is false. Should be fixed?--Imz 00:38, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I've treated both things.--Imz 01:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Discussion
I have posed certain questions about this template at Hinduism noticeboard's talk page. Please feel free to chime in there. Thanks. Abecedare 03:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

For some reason the article mentioned the Artharva Veda as being referred to as the fifth Veda, when it is the fourth out of four. I fixed that, but if someone knows why then fix it back —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.237.157 (talk) 19:16, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Yoga Vasistha
The Yoga Vasistha is missing here. Could it be added? If so, where? Wiki-uk (talk) 04:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hindu astrology books
Hindu astrology books are not scriptures. So removing them. Redtigerxyz Talk 10:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Missing

 * Stotra

AbHi ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:05, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Not all texts are scriptures
The title and sections of this template imply that all Hindu texts are scriptures, including their Sanskrit texts on music, phonetics, etc. Few Hindu texts are considered by scholars as Hindu scriptures, most are non-scriptures. Many have religious / spiritual / Hindu culture-related content. For sources and a discussion on Hindu scriptures, see: [1] Scripture, Encyclopedia Britannica (see Scriptures in non-Western religions section); [2] R.C. Zaehner (1992), Hindu Scriptures, Penguin Random House, ISBN 978-0679410782; [3] Dominic Goodall, Hindu Scriptures, University of California Press, ISBN 978-0520207783.

How about the following layout, based on above and other sources:


 * Vedas
 * Upanishads
 * Other scriptures
 * Bhagavad Gita, Agamas
 * Hindu texts
 * Vedangas
 * Shastras and Sutras
 * Puranas
 * Itihasa
 * Scripture classification
 * Timeline

Pinging, , and others for thoughts. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 18:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Sarah, I think the border between scripture and non-scripture is not clear cut in Hinduism, and I am afraid Hindus call pretty much every ancient text a "scripture," perhaps wrongly. I am happy for you to reclassify the texts, but the subtle distinction will probably be lost on most people. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 09:27, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Shastras and Sutras
Shashtras are not by any stretch Hindu texts. There is nothing in the wiki article for Shashtras: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shastra itself that indicates that it can be called. The delimitation of what constitutes a Hindu text itself is unclear, therefore it is more logical to go by what can be considered religious in nature and shashtras do not fall in that category.

Moreover, in the list there are many scriptures which fall neither in the category of shashtra nor sutras. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.85.255 (talk) 15:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


 * First, welcome to wikipedia. Next, this is just a template, merely a collection of convenient navigational links. The template does not say anywhere that Shastras are found only in Hinduism. Hindu texts do include Shastra and Sutras, but indeed not all Shastra and Sutras are Hindu texts. The link provides convenience to those who wish to navigate to those Hindu texts that are Shastras and Sutras. Your "more logical to go" argument is not persuasive and incorrect. Shastras and Sutras are a genre of Hindu texts (see Jan Gonda, Alper, Staal, Sharma, etc). For all these reasons, I am reverting your edit back to the older version. Please note that per WP:BRD you should not edit war and seek consensus for change to this stable template, on this talk page. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 19:49, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Sushruta and Charaka additions
Here are the WP:RS supporting their additions:


 * Sushruta Samhita


 * Charaka Samhita

Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 19:43, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Unable to set default expanded row
Even if I try to expand all sections with {{Hindu scriptures and texts|all}, nothing expands. . Could someone with more knowledge come along and fix this weird issue? Thanx. --Abhinav (talk) 16:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2021
please replace Shaiva word with Shiva which is written in the right sidebar in the dropdown menu. Nynmetatagg (talk) 13:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌. The header is refering to Shaivism. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 00:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2021
Please include Sangam literature aswell. It is very important Hindu texts. 157.49.191.178 (talk) 17:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please say exactly where you'd like Sangam literature to be added. Thanks. --Ferien (talk) 12:30, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2021
Add Sangam Literature as a new section and add Eight Anthologies, Ten Idylls, Eighteen Lesser Texts and Thirukkural and Tolkāppiyam.

Reason: These are huge literary works of Tamil Hinduism dating to 2nd century BC - 10th century CE. These are of prime importance in South Indian, Srilankan & South East Asian Hinduism. These are non-vedic shaivasim texts. There are plenty and these are very important to be added as separate column. You can refer List of Hindu texts article aswell. Reference: https://tamilandvedas.com/2014/07/15/basic-questions-about-tamils-hinduism/ https://www.bl.uk/sacred-texts/articles/sacred-texts-in-hinduism 157.49.185.57 (talk) 06:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  23:48, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

consensus
Can Sangam Literature be added as a new section and add Eight Anthologies, Ten Idylls, Eighteen Lesser Texts and Thirukkural and Tolkāppiyam.

Reason: These are huge literary works of Tamil Hinduism dating to 2nd century BC - 10th century CE. These are of prime importance in South Indian, Srilankan & South East Asian Hinduism. These are non-vedic shaivasim texts. There are plenty and these are very important to be added as separate column. This template is confined to sanskrit texts alone. You can refer List of Hindu texts article aswell. Reference: https://tamilandvedas.com/2014/07/15/basic-questions-about-tamils-hinduism/ https://www.bl.uk/sacred-texts/articles/sacred-texts-in-hinduism

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2021
Please add Sangam Literature as a new section and add Eight Anthologies, Ten Idylls, Eighteen Lesser Texts and Thirukkural and Tolkāppiyam as it's members.

Reason: These are huge literary works of Tamil Hinduism dating to 2nd century BC - 10th century CE. These are of prime importance in South Indian, Srilankan & South East Asian Hinduism. These are non-vedic shaivasim texts. There are plenty and these are very important to be added as separate column. This template is confined to sanskrit texts alone. You can refer List of Hindu texts article aswell. Reference: https://tamilandvedas.com/2014/07/15/basic-questions-about-tamils-hinduism/ https://www.bl.uk/sacred-texts/articles/sacred-texts-in-hinduism 157.49.184.223 (talk) 11:45, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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