Template talk:ISO 15924 script codes and related Unicode data

Unicode: Script description chapters
About the chapters in Unicode text that describe the scripts (7–23).


 * I have added a column that has an external link to the Unicode chapter pdf that describes the script. Like: Georgian (Geok) &rarr; . There are minor diffirences, such as groupings, appearing in the chapters, in the Unicode textbook. Interesting, not fatal.


 * Improvements are possible, for example re symbols, Z.... scripts (chapters 22, 23; which not all follow the regular "script"-handling), and presentational. -DePiep (talk) 15:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * See the extrra column. -DePiep (talk) 01:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Script directionality
I am working on this. Aim is to get these all in Wikidata. Then enwiki pull from there, whith 'overwride' option by enwiki parameter. -DePiep (talk) 21:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * In Infobox writing system and in this template I have removed ISO 15924 direction. Directionality is read from Wikidata, and can be set in the page by using direction. When set locally, no Wikidata is shown.
 * is deprecated and may be outdated (its data may be not updated). -DePiep (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Could be engineered to use Wikidata as its source instead? VanIsaacWScont 19:10, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Smart idea! To consider: outside of the script-self-article, one needs the Wikidata script-qid (this template does, it's automated; in it is an optional parameter, e.g., for when the Infobox is used in the language article (like here)). Will editors search for the qid?* Also name change needed ('Script direction'?). Sure we want to prevent any Update maintenance task.
 * Do you have examples for usage? -DePiep (talk) 20:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * * Editor required to enter the qid, or an ISO id, or a specific English name. -DePiep (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I would think it should use to retrieve the Wikidata direction information from the 15924 code. That should match the current function that generates the script directionality from a #switch for each of the 15924 codes. VanIsaacWScont 21:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, but that would require the article editor to use the ISO alpha-4 ID (or equivalent). Which is tricky business, they are hard to get right, and these are not that straightfwd eg with East Asian (Chinese) related scripts. I learned ;-). Where would this renewed template be useful? -DePiep (talk) 22:33, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, it is currently transcluded to 192 script and alphabet pages, so I would say those articles and other similar would be where the renewed template would be useful. VanIsaacWScont 00:55, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Now you lost me :-(
 * That 192 was ~400 before I made the changes. IOW, mw is working on it (counting going down slowly, I'm fine). I am waiting to see where the old template actually is being used.
 * More important: looks like you have no ideas on where & how this new template could be useful. Does not this make your question idle?
 * My line of thinking is, that Wikidata should take care of the fact (well sourced, international), and any enwiki editors can easily overwrite locally (using direction). To me, this is a good line to spend my editing time on. -DePiep (talk) 01:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Unicode ranges for this script
Working on this, in Wikidata. Is not the same as "Unicode block" -- at all. Trying to get all ~200 scripts right, then enwiki can pull this from WD + local overwrite option. :-) -DePiep (talk) 21:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Latn refinement

 * About Latin script in Unicode :
 * I have started table Latn in Unicode, to get some overview & control of this topic. It's complicated! ;-) Later more. -DePiep (talk) 21:38, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Merge or split of scripts

 * In the Venn diagram area: the table shows scripts merged (like Geok and Geor into U+'Georgian'), and split (like Hira and Kana into U+Hrkt). We are invited to describe those situations well. -DePiep (talk) 22:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)