Template talk:RfA toolbox

Could I suggest you encapsulate this whole template with

so that not even the collapsed table appears in the transclusion page, seeing as none of the links work at Requests for adminship itself. Mark Hurd (talk) 18:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

link to expired toolserver account
I'm getting an "account expired" message when following the Summaries: "By namespace" link. NE Ent 02:55, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * fl's toolserver account has expired. I've commented out the summary until this can be resolved. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   12:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

expired links
2nd row (Analysis): 4th row (Cross-wiki): Ansh666 05:17, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * NAC of AfD's
 * User rights
 * Log actions
 * Meta rights log

RfA votes
What do we think about adding a link to the RfA vote counter?  Kharkiv07 Talk  02:35, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The template is intended to aid RfA participants by providing links to statistical data about the candidate. Assuming you're referring to the xtools RfX vote tool, I'm not sure how valuable it is to know how many RfA !votes the candidate has casted in terms of their suitability for adminship. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:34, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Participation in the process, but I suppose you're correct.  Kharkiv07 Talk  16:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Broken Links
Hi,
 * 1) Can someone please remove the 'AfD Closes' link as it no longer works.
 * 2) In the latest RfA, it was claimed 's AIV Analysis doesn't work so needs replacing. If you see the RfA, there is another tool on Xtools but I can't get that to load either.
 * RhinosF1(chat) (status)(contribs) 19:19, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I wasn't aware that it wasn't working until today when another editor brought it to my attention. I'm not going to have enough time to work on it for the next couple weeks - so I'm going to go ahead and remove my tool from the template. SQL Query me!  03:38, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for doing so! Any thoughts on 'AfD Closes' - Developer for that has said on phab they have no intention to fix and no one has come forward to take over yet. RhinosF1(chat) (status)(contribs) 05:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Analysis of edit summary usage
At Village pump (technical) I asked a question about how much history the analysis of edit summary usage in the context of an RfA. I am of the opinion that going back 10 or 15 years does not add useful information about a current candidate, and suggested 5 years. Someone else suggested 2 years. Whatever we decide, it appears that the link in this template is the place to make the change:

https://xtools.wmflabs.org/editsummary/en.wikipedia/Jimbo_Wales/0/

So, if we make the change, what is the right number? How far back should we go to make it so the reader sees how the candidate uses edit summaries now as apposed to a decade ago? 2 years? 5 years? some other number? --Guy Macon (talk) 14:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I would say 2 years sounds good; this is the period of time I usually look at when evaluating candidates. I will look further on some things like the block log, but edit summaries? 2+ years ago probably shouldn't matter. Just be sure to also change the link text to "Recent edit summary usage" &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:42, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Let's just be WP:BOLD, change it to two years, and see if anyone objects. I don't imagine anyone will. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:41, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * For the time being, I object. This requires broader agreement. Leaky caldron (talk) 14:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What about something similar to the way anontools does it, e.g. Edit summary usage (Recent) --Ahecht ([[User talk:Ahecht|TALK
 * On my PC that second URL appears to be the same "all edits from all time" summary except with "Jimbo_Wales" instead of "Jimbo Wales" in the URL. The actual anontools template gives you this:








 * (The anontools template doesn't like spaces, which is fine because IPs don't have spaces in them).


 * Also interesting is what happens when I try to indent the anontools template:






 * Note the weirdness in the "[" and "]" placement...


 * Getting back on topic, one editor wants more discussion, and I have zero objections to more discussion, so where should I post the RfC? So I can combine proposals, are there any other related statistics that RfA voters see that go back over ten years when they should show the last two years?


 * Right now I can only edit Wikipedia for a short time before having to either rest or do more physical therapy, so I would really appreciate it if someone else could grab the ball and run with it on this one... --Guy Macon (talk) 16:19, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't feel this is quite RfC-worthy (but if enough people here disagree, then certainly it is). The questionable part I think is whether edit summaries from 2+ years ago are relevant when evaluating a candidate. Ahecht's suggestion finds the middle line, where we give you all-time stats and "recent", and you as the !voter make the decision on what you feel is relevant.
 * Relatedly, I have plans to add the form for each tool in XTools on the result pages. It wold be collapsed at the top, similar to the "Search for contributions" panel at Special:Contributions/MusikAnimal. This would at least make it more clear that you can filter by date, and allow the user decide what date range they think is important. It will be a while before this is implemented, though. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:41, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Giving the user a choice is ideal. but we still should pick a default for those who don't make a choice, and that default should be in the range of 2-5 years. The RfA !voters who have a clue already ignore edit summaries from ten years ago, but RfAs also attract newbies and editors with a chip on their shoulder, neither of whom are likely to select a date range or even bother to look past the pretty pie charts at the top. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:39, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Giving the user a choice is ideal. but we still should pick a default for those who don't make a choice, and that default should be in the range of 2-5 years. The RfA !voters who have a clue already ignore edit summaries from ten years ago, but RfAs also attract newbies and editors with a chip on their shoulder, neither of whom are likely to select a date range or even bother to look past the pretty pie charts at the top. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:39, 20 March 2020 (UTC)