Template talk:Witchcraft

Delete
Delete becuase there is only one article with useful information (European witchcraft) &mdash; Stevey7788 (talk) 01:01, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * what is the point of creating a template with lots of redlinks, apparently with no intention to ever write the articles linked? I created redirects now, but this template should really be altered to link to a useful collection of existing articles, not to what somebody at some point thought would be useful to have. dab (𒁳) 08:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The template has since been filled up, rendering this need for deletion obsolete. (Midnightblueowl (talk) 19:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC))

Criteria for inclusion
What is the rationale for including Chronicles of Narnia here? It doesn't seem to me that the series deals with witchcraft in a manner that is significantly different from many other fantasy series. If it were up to me, I would include only works for which witchcraft is a central theme. I'm not sure that's the case for Narnia, certainly not to the degree of the other works listed. My concerns are that (1) the article doesn't need a navbox with mostly unrelated topics, and (2) this navbox doesn't need links to articles that don't really benefit the subject. I titled this section generically because I expected to find other works that might not belong, and even though the rest of the current list have much stronger cases for inclusion, there ought to be a line drawn somewhere in general.

Actually, now that I look at WP:NAV, I would say that most if not all of the fictional works should be removed. They're not really part of any coherent group that a reader would generally want to navigate through. A category would serve the intent far better (and the category could certainly be included in the navbox). Thoughts?

--Fru1tbat (talk) 15:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. Seems to me to be a case of not everything needs a navbox, and I share your concern of the navbox clutter that is likely to ensue. I agree a category would be better. oknazevad (talk) 16:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Even the contrary article WP:A navbox on every page concedes that you should not create the following
 * A listing of articles for which there is no reasonable theoretical limit to the numbers of articles that can be included. Some examples are a list of people who are notable for the same reason but otherwise have no connections, or companies within the world or a country providing the same products or services.
 * A collection of minimally related subjects. For example, people who are notable for having committed the same type of crime in unrelated incidents.
 * This seems to fall in that category. If the contrary article encouraging navboxes says not to create them for "minimally related subjects", then we certainly should not. I propose this navbox be deleted.--WickerGuy (talk) 17:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree, a category would likely be better, particularly if properly named such as "Works of fiction including witches or witchcraft". This would also sidestep concerns whether a work with one or more characters who are witches is 'about' witchcraft. Bakkster Man (talk) 17:45, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Question - Technically this isn't just a "Witchcraft" navbox, correct? It's a "Witchcraft" and "magic" navbox. So shouldn't it be included on that basis?  Or is there another magic-only navbox that could be appropriately substituted? -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 19:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * One problem, as far as I'm concerned, is that even disregarding the witchcraft/magic distinction for the moment, it's still an indiscriminate (somewhat boundless, as WickerGuy mentions above) collection of works with no other relationship. They don't really belong in any such navbox. A category would be much better. --Fru1tbat (talk) 04:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that the list is arbitrary and out of place, so I've eliminated it. Also, I am very surprised to see the Bible listed as a major treaty of sorcery and witchcraft. I've taken it away too. I acknowledge I am not an expert on the matter, but I believe that if a particular book of the Bible can be described from a NONPOV as a treaty on witchraft we'd have to list this particular book only.--RR (talk) 16:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)