User:Σ/Testing facility/TP/TpProt/276

The Signpost: 18 September 2013

 * Read this Signpost in full
 * Single-page
 * Unsubscribe
 * EdwardsBot (talk) 05:42, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Grammar
No, it wasn't you. I wasn't sure if it should be Liz' or Liz's or some other grammar style that I'm unaware of.--v/r - TP 19:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * LOL! You know, technically, TP, "Liz'" is probably grammatically correct but I've only seen people use "Liz's" so that's I'm used to. Liz  Read! Talk! 20:20, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #76
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 22:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Events/Press/Blogs
 * upcoming: UK Wikidata Training
 * Magnus blogged about the Wikidata Query tool
 * Gerard did an interview with Emw about the heady stuff of Wikidata
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * 30 percent of all items are categorized in 6 large groups (main type (GND) (P107)). Most are items about geographic features (1.7 million items), some of these already have coordinates (0.5 million). Items about persons are fairly frequent too (1.3 million), many already with gender (0.9 million), a few with DOB (0.05 million) or DOD (0.04 million). Other groups include: creative works (305,000), terms, organizations, and events.
 * The first 2 Wikidata oversighters are elected, Ajraddatz and Rschen7754. Please contact the email at the above page, and do not post requests onwiki. Two more candidates are running: Stryn and Sven Manguard.
 * Neat new gadget to semi-automatically import labels, aliases and descriptions based on Wikipedia article introductions
 * New search backend on testwikidata needs testing
 * Commons is still scheduled to get interwiki links via Wikidata on Monday and can also be tested on test.wikidata.org
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: GSRR rating, filming location, USK rating, notation, facility, South African municipality code, topic's main category, Nova Scotia Register of Historic Places identifier, PEGI rating, AMG Game ID, Libris, PORT identifier
 * Development
 * Wikimedia Deutschland is looking for a software developer with a focus on frontend development with Java Script to work on Wikidata among other things. Apply!
 * Paper Cut: Display the ID of an item or property page next to the label (53462)
 * Paper Cut: Fix value field not loading for some properties (53157)
 * Paper Cut: Work on supporting non-earth globes in the UI (54097)
 * Worked on quantity data type implementation in backend and frontend
 * Work on a build and release tool for the Wikidata software
 * More work on sorting of references and qualifiers
 * Work on database schema modification functionality to be used by the query store
 * Prepare deployment for Wikimedia Commons (including improving script for populating sites table, adding support for Wikimedia Commons)
 * Work on making entity data available in the Mobile Wikibase skin
 * new Cirrus Search (Elastic Search) backend enabled on test.wikidata.org
 * Finished up cucumber tests for sitelinks
 * Hotfixes for coordinates autosummaries
 * Worked on simplifying process of defining wb.fetchedEntities
 * Finished working on wbeditentity
 * Worked on MySQL and SQLite table definition readers
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Help fix formatting and value issues for a property.
 * Respond to a "Request for Comment".
 * Hack on one of these.

Mountains Appalachian Trail CfD
Thanks for informing me about this. --ColonelHenry (talk) 21:20, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, ColonelHenry. I can't believe it's already being revived and discussed after it was closed last week. Liz  Read! Talk! 22:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Header gaps
Hiyo. This is barely worth mentioning, but (afaik) there is no consensus on whether talkpage headers or article headers should have a gap underneath them. It's good to be consistent within each page, but otherwise it's best not to add or remove the gaps (as you did [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Content_forking&curid=3052635&diff=573924281&oldid=566416248 here]). Some people prefer them for visual clarity when scanning the wikitext. Also, if we click the "New section" button, (as I've done for this message) then the software will automatically produce a header with a blankline underneath it. That's all, and again, no big deal. :) –Quiddity (talk) 21:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about your preference, Quiddity. But if there is no consensus then I guess either way is correct, no? Liz  Read! <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 22:24, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not "my preference" at all. It's a lack of consensus in either direction. But the more important point is that the software adds these gaps in automatically, so they're endorsed at a certain software level. I would recommend that you not remove existing gaps, especially when an entire page uses them. HTH. –Quiddity (talk) 22:32, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, Quiddity, thanks for letting me know. Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 10:27, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

 * Thanks, <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b>, I don't get many of these rewards. Maybe because I am often contrary! So, thank you very much. ;-) Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 21:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Your work is good, and appreciated, keep going! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 21:30, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hello, Newjerseyliz, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful: Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome!
 * Introduction to Wikipedia
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page and How to develop articles
 * How to create your first article
 * Simplified Manual of Style

<div style="border-style: solid; border-color: blue; background-color: Red; border-width: 1px; text-align: left; padding: 8px 8px 0;" class="plainlinks"> <p style="font-size: 200%; color: #fff; margin: 0.2em 0 0;">Don't call names, ! <p style="font-size: 120%; color: Gold; margin: 0;">You have been noticed using opprobrious epithets. It's payback time from the User:RexxS/Shakespearean insults! To activate the Insultspout and receive fresh insults, click [ ]. Note that all insults generated by the Spout are guaranteed literary and cultured, unlike the nasty things you said,.

Hmm never seen this template before, but in my opinion its abusive and a personal attack and its should be discontinued.--<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 16:21, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought it was funny, <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b>, and placed it on my Talk Page myself. The "epiphets" are so ludicrous and silly, I can't believe anyone would take them personally. Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 17:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I thought it was placed here by someone else. Glad you find it fun. Peace! --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — <b style= "color:#090;">Keithbob</b> • Talk  • 19:10, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Wow, Charmlet, two "rewards" back-to-back! Thank you for noticing. Liz <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 01:42, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Creating categories
Hi Liz

When you create categories, please can you check that they have a proper set of parent categories?

I just reviewed some recent categories which you created, and found that they all lacked at least one parent:


 * lgbt scientists from india was parented only under Category:LGBT scientists by nationality. However, this category is an intersection of three attributes: Nationality (Indian), Occupation (scientists), and LGBT. There parent categories should locate it within the relevant category trees, so I added Category:Indian scientists and Category:LGBT people from India.
 * lgbt scientists from hungary had the same problems as India
 * 17th-century japanese actors is an intersection of 3 attributes: era (17th c), nationality (Japanaese), and occupation (actors). It needs to be parented under categories which cover all those attributes, either individually or in pairs. You had categorised it under Category:17th-century actors and, both which were valid and correct; but that left it isolated from . So I added.
 * 17th-century spanish actors had the same prob as the Japanese ones
 * bangladeshi producers is an intersection of 2 attributes: nationality (Bangladeshi), and occupation (producers). It needs to be parented under both those attributes, but you placed it only under, leaving it isolated from other producers. So I added.
 * bangladeshi male voice actors is an intersection of 3 attributes: gender (male), nationality (Bangladeshi), and occupation (voice actors). You has categorised it under and, leaving it isolated from other male voice actors. So I added.

WP:CAT explains some of this.

Hope this helps. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:44, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice, Brown HairedGirl. I recognize your substantial experience and while at times we might disagree on CfD decisions, I hope to always work within the guidelines of what is appropriate with categorization at Wikipedia.
 * I appreciate the corrections...it will help me learn to do a better job in the future! Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 13:11, 24 September 2013 (UTC)