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WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive
 WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive! WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive! The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 1, 2007 – September 1, 2007.

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Unverified information on Buckfast page
Hi Deiz. You have changed my edit of the Buckfast page, where you have claimed that Coatbridge is the Buckfast Capital of Scotland, which is an incorrect quote. If you have ever been to Coatbridge, you would know that Coatbridge & Airdrie is joined at the hip, and known collectively as "Monklands". Buckfast sales in Airdrie are the same as in Coatbridge, which is why the Buckfast Triangle is known as Airdrie, Coatbridge, and Cumbernauld. My edit was not vandalism, but a correct update as someone who hails from the area, and spent my full life living in both Airdrie as well as Coatbridge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris303 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The Buckfast page gets hit hard with nonsense and vandalism, hence a real zero-tolerance approach is taken towards unsourced additions. In line with your concerns I've removed all the unsourced material from that section. Deiz talk 13:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. User:Chris303 16:27, 11 September 2007 (BST)

Dave Bishop
No discussion about the notability and removal of info regarding the pending CD? You've asked for better references too - other Manchester Comedians have no references barely - please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Hadoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Moorhouse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Slater and many more! - Embassy 00:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC) )

Keithchegwin.jpg
I have tagged Image:Keithchegwin.jpg as replaceable fair use. If you wish to dispute this assertion, please add to the image description page and a comment explaining your reasoning to the the image talk page. MER-C 11:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you
Thanks you. In Japanese pronunciation for number 7 is shichi and hichi. There are many readings to one kanji. Therefore, I think the kanji must be written down in the English sentence.Tokyo Watcher 11:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ?? Deiz talk 12:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ehren
Yeah whatever you want dude, edit it as you like i dont care, however i think your going to struggle to find any other sources on the web but by all means look? I look forward to seeing what is found. King Alaric 16:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

uc merced
Sounds like an advertising tag to me. UC Merced is a new campus so they don't have much to be proud of, yet. I don't really see how being the 1st in the 21st century is a claim to notability. UC Merced is pretty much a holding pen right now for students who couldn't get into better UC schools (like my soon-to-be alma mater, UCSD[beep-beep - me tooting my own horn]). I say lets keep the claim until the university does something notable. &mdash; O cat ecir  Talk  07:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

user Controllerman
Deiz, please close my user account and erase the history. I am thoroughly disgusted with the way I have been treated and the false as well as unsubstantiated accusations of sockpuppetry. I want no more of WP. Thank you Controllerman 08:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

OCC
I removed some stuff of border line importance, I hope we have reached a consensus. Anything else, please discuss on the talk page. -- Earl Andrew - talk 07:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not all is available on the club website. I had to do some reasearch for it. If I wanted to avoid your definition of "conflict of interest", I wouldn't have edited anything on Wikipedia. I write what I know, and I write what I'm interested in. Again, I can of course work on sourcing the information to improve the article. -- Earl Andrew - talk 08:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion tags
Hi You are not supposed to remove deletion tags until admins have had a chance to have a look at the article--AdamJWC 12:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Admin. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 12:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify beyond the obvious fact that Deiz is an admin, anyone that is not the original creator of an article can remove speedy deletion or prod tags. <span style="font-family:Arial; font-weight:bold; border:none; font-size:10pt; padding:2px; line-height:10pt; width:30em;">&mdash; O cat ecir  <sup style="color:#333399;">Talk  16:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Why would an admin leave an article uncategorised--AdamJWC 12:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I wanted to have my account renamed to Adam.J.W.C. but becuase I had 1 block for personal attacks they would not do it, even though I have reverted hundreds of spam and vandalised articles since then. So it looks as though I am going to get picked on for my mistake earlier on, like have all my edits reverted or have my user page deleted or something similar.--AdamJWC 13:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Joe Rogan: Deleting Additional Info
You could have added tags to the information that did not provide sources (giving other users the opportunity to provide sources), but you took it upon yourself to remove the ENTIRE "Additional Information" section without discussing it first. Not only did you delete the unsourced information but you deleted information that cited it's sources as well. Are you going to take it upon yourself to delete every "Additional Information" and "Trivia" section on Wikipedia?RavenJA 06:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. Join me. Unsourced and poorly sourced (e.g. from blogs) facts and miscellany can be removed on-sight. As noted, feel free to reliably source the info and integrate it back into the article. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 14:03, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Most of that information does not belong in the main body of the article that's why it was listed under "Additional Information". What's your excuse for removing the information that cited it's sources? You might as well delete the entire article while your at it.RavenJA 07:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Per policy, Wikipedia is not a collection of indiscriminate information. If something is a random factoid, unsourced or sourced to a blog, it is not the business of an encyclopedia to report it. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 14:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

FYI
May I ask what FYI stands for--AdamJWC 01:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * "For your information". The first response to my question on the changing username talkpage seemed positive. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 01:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

turbittj Saipan links
I live in Saipan. I think I know it better than you. I used to live in Korea. I wouldn't go telling you what is important in Korea anymore. I added three of the most popular and useful Saipan links in the Saipan section, and you call it spam. I'm trying to remain civil as per your admonition, but I would expect more from a Hedberg fan. I would never spam, and I added no spam, yet I'm blocked. Give me a break. Did you even look at the links you call spam. They were advice for travelers in Saipan and descriptions of life in Saipan. How is that spam in the Saipan section? If that is the way this thing works then yeah, that is my first and last involvement with this site.
 * I think the problem here is you don't fully understand what external links are and are not supposed to do on WP. Nutshell: linking to blogs is out, linking to a central Saipan info site is in, which is where the article is right now. You can read all about it at External links. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an information directory. I'm sure you can add plenty of encyclopedic content about Saipan, but you have to play by the rules. What was your previous username? <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 03:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

If that is the way it is fine. I know it was useful. I got feedback to that effect from tons of people in Japan who used it to learn about Saipan for their vacation here. I didn't make anything off of it, I'd love to see a similar list at other locations, and I certainly resent a spam label. Nothing harmful came of those links for sure. It wasn't off topic. This whole site is basically one giant blog btw. I'm glad to see you have some reason for doing that, and weren't just some a**hole busting my chops, which I was sure was happening. I disagree, but I'm new and I don't think long for wikipedia, so c'est la vie.
 * The ratio of people enforcing WP standards to those adding non-standard info is regrettably unbalanced. However, you can't take it the wrong way if your article is cleaned up and others aren't. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 02:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Sydney Coach Terminal
Hi, I noticed you put the advert notice back in the Sydney Coach Terminal article, do you think it would be possible to re-write or to even reduce some of the text so that it does not read like an advert. Last time I was in the terminal to purchase a ticket I realised what great info they provided as in tourist info and public transport, so I decided to write an article about the Sydney Coach Terminal. Not to advertise for them, as I would have nothing to gain, but to provide information for the public, as in oversees tourists who might be thinking of coming over one day. I have tried to make it sound not so much like an advert by removing the excessive use of the address and maybe a few other things, or another good idea would be to delete the article completely. What do you think--Humphrythefunlovingfellow 06:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC) --HumphryTheFunLovingFellow 07:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't touched the article, just pointed out the tag was valid. Its reads horribly like an advert and smells like a cut-and-paste from a corporate blurb. Whats up with your new signature? Usernames and signatures should resemble each other to some degree without a good reason. Given up on the name change? <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 06:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What I wrote for the sydney coach terminal is original research if you want delete that article, I dont care I have nothing to lose. Do you think I should creat a new account instead for my new signiture--HumphryTheFunLovingFellow 07:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 10:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I may want to look into it when I get a chance but I want to avoid sock puppets and I would prefer to keep the edit history--HumphryTheFunLovingFellowIsHereTodayRightNow 01:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * / History of user name--HumphryTheFunLovingFellowIsHereTodayRightNow 01:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Alrighty then.. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 01:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Saipan
See Talk:Saipan. ---C.m.jones 18:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

m:user:Deiz
Hello Deiz, Just for your information: Since your user page doesn't say you have a page on meta wiki, lack of authentication proof, the endorsement submitted by that account will be removed, unless we find a link to meta use page on your user page here. Thank you for your attention. --Aphaia 06:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Link
There was a link there at one stage but I think that probably got archived by mistake. I will reinsert it later. In some cases I think it should be a private archive that only I myself should be able to access. Thanks for the info (WonderContributor&lt;S&gt;) Concerning the archives I will link them up soon for all to peruse over. Looks like I am being punished for the speedy deletion tag thingy, I don't think I'll ever hear the end of this. &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;WoNdEr-CoNtRiBuToR&lt;S&gt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;--
 * I am not quite sure if I have broken any law concerning my signature, its just that I get sick of the same one pretty easily and if a can't have a new user name then this would be the next best thing. I also wish not to start a new account becuase that would be considered sock puppetry and I would like to keep my edit history and watchlist in tact.

Image:Bill Hicks The Man in the Trench-Coat'.png
Re this disputed image, I created said image and released all copyright on it and uploaded it to the Bill Hicks page here at wikipedia. I'm not sure why it has been removed as I stated these facts when I uploaded it. DD-Jnr
 * And you took the original picture, and have permission from the estate of Bill Hicks to release his likeness into the public domain? I don't think so. Just because you cut and edited a copyrighted image does not mean you have the right to release it. Please become more closely acquainted with image copyright policy if you wish to challenge others on the subject. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 23:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The lawyer working for the Hicks family who also represents the Bill Hicks Estate informed me that Mr Hicks' family were extremely pleased with the art work I had created and that they instructed the above mentioned lawyer to have my artwork feature prominently at Bill's official website. www.billhicks.com At said website you will see that I do in fact have copyright of the image and therefore have the right to release it into public domain. So I suggest *you* become more closely acquainted with the facts before you remove people's valid contributions to wikipedia. DD-Jnr
 * "Website copyright 2007, Arizona Bay Production Co., Inc. All rights reserved." Got it yet? <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 02:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

DRV for "Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story"
Dear Deiz, this upcoming Wikidocmentary film article is currently under discussion at Deletion review on today, because a recent decision to retain it on Wikipedia has been appealed and it is in progress in reaching an ultimate consensus. You may wish to support for restoration by contributing it to the review. Since you had involved into it in regards to this upcoming Wikidocumentary film by Nic Hill, so please do help out and try not to hesitate to voice out your advocated opinion! Otherwise without you commenting about it, this article would never had existed. Pole Heinz Tower 14:29, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I helped the guys with the project, but the reliable sources issue seems pretty solid at this point. If en-wiki has a firmer line on this that other wikis, I'm all for it. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 14:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Your recent block
Hello - that IP address you just blocked for 1 year seemed to just be another vandal - it doesn't look like a serious death threat. Maybe a smaller block would be more justified, considering it didn't have any warnings or any prior history of vandalism? ugen64 02:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's important to send a clear message that edits such as that cannot and will not be tolerated, obviously the threat was likely not "serious". We'll see if anything comes up on the talk page. I'd be happy to reduce or remove the block in time, or see it done by another admin, but not just yet. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 03:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Could you delete a page for me?
Hi, just wondering if you could delete Userbox:Derry_Boi/Sandbox2 for me. I created it and it was meant to be a sub-page of my user space, but as you can see, I started the link with "Userbox" and not "User", so it didn't become a sub-page and hence has no bread line back to its parent page. Stupid mistake on my behalf. No need to move it, I think deleting it would be the best option. I don't really know anything about the deletion process, so thoughtI'd seek an admin for help. I think it meets Criteria for speedy deletion. Anyway thanks for your help. Derry Boi 00:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. If you create a page in error you can add the speedy tag. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 02:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Jackass
I certainly have my sources, but can you tell me how to cite documentaries on dvds? - Flowerkiller1692
 * Sure, list the title of the disc, publisher, date of release and ASIN number. Example at Long Way Round. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 03:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Do I have to cite the specific documentary if the documentary was a special feature on the dvd? If I do, do I cite it first before the title of the disc, publisher and all that other stuff? Flowerkiller1692 21:05 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Something like "DVD bonus features, Jackass: The Movie, Paramount / MTV Films, 2002, ASIN: 1234554321" should do it. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 04:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Added my sources, how does it look now? Flowerkiller1692 17:52 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sweet as. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 01:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I see the word that you put in to the name change people made a difference. After re-applying I tried to log back in and it said that my user account no longer existed, when I looked further my name had been changed to what was requested the first two times. I think it had something to do with good behaviour and the word you put in for me. Thanks. Adam.J.W.C. 03:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice to know. Your continued good behaviour and happiness with the new name will be the best reward :) <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 03:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Again. Adam.J.W.C. 03:50, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.
I appreciate it. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 02:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you
I feel grateful for your appropriate advice. After two peaceful months, I am suffering from Jeffrey O. Gustafson's activities again. I don't understand his stalking activities. I cope with this problem based on your advice. Thanks you. Tokyo Watcher 09:43, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Bam Margera & JAPW
You didn't give any support as to why it isn't significant. Sure he makes a lot of appearances, but for JAPW, they don't have a celebrity at their shows all the time. With Margera, he raised the promotions profile the much more slightly even if he didn't do much. Mr. C.C. 05:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, if I am going to be putting him in the JAPW alumni category, there should a be a reason on his article page. Mr. C.C. 05:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I gave it verifiability by citing with a link from a notable website's forum. Mr. C.C. 06:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

JAPW Notability
There was deletion tag put upon the JAPW article and well, the concensus was to keep it. I had to revert an edit on the JAPW page due to blatant copy and pasting. I have tried to contact Fat Frank to see if I could use the history of JAPW from the JAPW official site without having to paraphrase it. That's why more hasn't been done on the history side of things. Mr. C.C. 08:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

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WP:NOT
Please see WP:Deletion paragraph two, sentence one. Nothing controversial, as consensus already exist that voters should refer to policy. Just saying delete per WP:NOT is not enough, for WP:NOT has a lot of information on it. Users need to demonstrate they know specifically what part of WP:NOT it violates, otherwise it becomes nothing more than a canned response deletionists use. Self explanatory addition. (Mind meal 11:53, 28 July 2007 (UTC))

Kelvin Tatum
Neville Tatum is one of the top engine tuners in speedway, referred to in the reference book as explained in the note. I obviously put the reference note on the wrong place originally, which I have now corrected. He also represented Great Britain at international level as a rider, albeit not very often. Again verified in the reference book. IMO that is notable. Hammer1980 13:08, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Peter Oakes, the book author is the just a bout the most prolific speedway writer about. So to mention Neville Tatum, I have to write an article on an author of a book that mentions the fact he is an engine tuner, then write an article on Neville Tatum just to show that Kelvin Tatum has a sporting sibling ? I am trying to write a comprehensive speedway section, not a section on authors. Where do I draw the line ? Reseacrhing what papers Oakes has worked for and the name of every one of his books ? I am currently trying to write up all World Championship riders as someone else has been whining about red links.

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You concur what? That I'm human? If you wanna do something with me, then do it. If you think I'm here for ill reasons, do it already. I'd respect you more if you would quit with all the little lectures and just act if you feel I deserve blocking. (Mind meal 13:19, 28 July 2007 (UTC))

Stuart Robson (speedway rider)

 * Note, the flipside of this discussion was deleted from his talkpage with comment or archival by Hammer1980.. I'm sure he has his reasons.. anyway, has the details. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 11:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Further information can be found about Stuart Robson at the website of his current team. There seems to be no problem listing the club webiste on a football players article. What is the difference for a speedway rider ? The message board deletion I agree with. Had actually contemplated removing that myself.Hammer1980 13:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Then I suggest you edit the entire football players section. I feel that you are now being overly critical and fussy. I cannot see anything wrong with the Offical team website within the external links section to obtain further information on the rider and his career.Hammer1980 13:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

A very pedantic difference. Hammer1980 13:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a link farm, that I totally agree with. However if the links to football club sites are suitbale for football players then is is the same for speedway riders. In your own opinion that is wrong, then maybe as an administrator you should bring that up with your peers. In the meantime I have taken a look at the Wikipeida external links section in in my opinion the Offical club site link is a perfectly legitimate external and have re-added it. Your point about sibling category, whilst I disagree with it, I will leave them off articles until I can be bothered/get around to writing them. As it stands I feel like doing nothing at all. I have only recently started posting again after a pointless argument with a bot owner that was finally sorted when an admin/editor who was not on a power trip was very helpful and sorted the imaging problem for me and since then I have been using his posting as a rough template. Hammer1980 14:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

What should be linked ---  4. Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews. --- Match reports, interviews on the club page. However, you would already know this having clicked on the link to check before deleting it.Hammer1980 14:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Reports and interviews appear under different sections and different pages. Again being pedantic for the sake of it. My example of 'power trip' is now even more valid. An external link to site that contains various sources of further relevant information is accaptable. If you have a real issue with this then I suggest you contact the fotball wiki project group instead of bullying one mug who is trying to build a speedway section almost single handedly. If I was making pages into link farms or posting unverified crap then fine but I'm not. I am posting articles on a subject I know a lot about using perfectly acceptable sources. Many are stubs but have been added to by other editors who have had bad experiences on Wiki in the past. Just because you are unfamiliar with them does not make them unreliable. Maybe your time will be better spent looking at real problems within wikipedia than a few external links.Hammer1980 14:33, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Sites change the way they are organised all the time, to discourage hotlinking, the domain name rarely does. The External links do not break the rules as I easily explained. You seem to think otherwise. This is a matter of opinion, not fact. The fact you are continuing to debate with me over a point that is so trivial, indicates to me you are on a power trip. Sorry if that offends you. The links are not wrong according to the guidelines and therefore I am not ignoring anything because everyone else does. If you feel I am doing something so horrendously wrong, please feel free to add me to your admins page. I will continue to add external links as I have been as I feel my own editorial policy is sound within the Wiki guidleines. Hammer1980 15:17, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Gordon Kennett
The Kennett family is one of the most famous families in speedway. The two brothers were notable in speedway from the fact that all three were professional riders at the same time. Gordon was the most successful. All mentioned in same reference book. Hence in sporting sibling category.Hammer1980 13:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Sporting siblings
I agree that some people have added one notable person who happens to have a brother/sister in sport even though they are not particularly notable or don't have a page, in this case I have asked them to either remove them or create a page for them if they are notable, I shall change the intro on the page. I created the page because it is interesting to see how talent runs in families.Joe p15 15:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree there is a human interest angle, I just can't help thinking that creating a category which a) requires 2 notable people to be articled and included, and b) where the category title does not in itself underline why those listed are notable (compare with "Category:Nobel laureates" to choose a random example) might be a step too far. Let's keep an eye on it for now, if there are continued problems we'll look at the options. Right now I hope you will join me in ensuring that 2 separate articles which establish notability (rather than a claim to a non-linked / redlinked sibling's notability on one page) should be the minimum entry requirement - single articles should be removed until their twin is created, not allowed to stay on the promise of future creation. Nice one, <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 15:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, no probs I'll keep an eye on it, Joe p15 23:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Chris Harris (speedway rider)
Hi, I left a message at primary editor talk page. Yes, it does still look like a copyvio. Some sentences are still the same. I hope he will send the permissions to OTRS like I suggested to him. That would solve the copyright issue. Garion96 (talk) 17:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Foreign Objects
Sorry for adding in any unessecery information on the foreign objects article. Though, i still do wish to keep the 'Drew' in the former members section. He was the bassist for Foreign Objects sometime during 1996. Deron actually does state that he does not remember Drew's surname.

Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
 * I appreciate you are editing in good faith, but simply adding "Drew" with no surname or sources is not really in keeping with Wikipedia policies and ambitions. FO was a garage band that became retroactively notable after CKY took off, info about the handful of early shows they played is also not really important - try to keep things in perspective - Tool, Soundgarden etc. no doubt played little shows in front of a handful of people as well when they were starting out. Just because FO doesn't have much of a history doesn't mean we have to delve into the minutiae to pad out the article. They have one notable re-released EP, they became CKY.. that's pretty much it. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 11:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Souto de Moura
I added a reference for prizes won by him. Miguelzinho 02:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Korean subway templates
Having looked into this a bit more, it seems that the previous/next station feature is essentially redundant to S-line, a succession box designed for rail services. I've edited Jongno 3-ga Station to show how this will look in the Korean subway articles. What do you think? PC78 04:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I was just checking it out, looks superb. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 04:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers! If you're happy with this I'll go ahead and update the other articles. Regards. PC78 05:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Brandy Talore Page/Pic
It is a pic that I asked her if I could use. She sent it to me. Why was the entire page delted though?
 * You need to submit evidence of her releasing the picture under a relevant licence to the folks at WP:OTRS. The article is up, and is currently surviving AfD. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 01:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Elonka 2
Thank you for taking the time to participate at the discussion in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project. I listened carefully to all concerns, and will do my best to incorporate all of the constructive advice that I received, into my future actions on Wikipedia. If you can think of any other ways that I can further improve, please let me know. Best wishes, Elonka 04:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
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Do you know what happened though, i mean you blocked that IP last october, and it was only half the same as mine, very odd--Jac16888 10:27, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Others know more about the technical minutiae than I do.. in any case, how does a block from a single IP in October affect a named account 10 months later.. the edits by the vandal were all related to Taunton, England.. does this make any sense? It's presumably because your ISP assigned you the same dynamic IP, the entire 81.xxxxxxxx range is assigned to a company called RIPE who are based in the Netherlands.. they may have leased various numbers to whoever you're connected with. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 11:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Jersey All Pro Wrestling alumni category
It doesn't have everyone that has previously worked for JAPW in it. So it's not technically complete. Mr. C.C. 06:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, as I pointed out in my edit summary. That is different to being underpopulated, which broadly means there are not yet enough entries in the category (think less than 10) to justify having the category in the first place. Adding that tag notifies "general" editors of the need to fill the cat. In this case, only people interested in JAPW would be reasonably expected to add more entries, which they are doing, hence the tag is unnecessary. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 07:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Foreign Objects
Should i change the picture from the UCS/TUNAC re-release to a photo of the band?
 * Actually yes, the band page should not contain the album cover as it can only be used on the album article given that one exists. Do you have a free image of the band? <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 10:03, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Bureaucrash
Can I get your opinion on whether the sources I've gathered at this page bring this organization above the threshhold level of WP:ORG notability? (You previously voted to delete, and I don't wish to recreate a deleted article if these sources had already been considered, though some of them post-date the deletion.) THF 12:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Ted, to be honest I'm not convinced this hits the requirements, particularly the need for the coverage to be non-trivial. I don't really regard blogs helpful in establishing notability, just - in some cases - OK to reference information. As far as the media references go:
 * Washington Times - redirected to main page
 * Col. Springs Gaz. - something, but still an op/ed
 * Dallas Morning News - passing, trivial
 * Wash. Post - entirely trivial mention in a trivial column
 * So, on the strength of these references I personally would have to stick with my original decision. However, there is something out there, so keep at it. It may be better in the long run if you hold off until you're really certain it's over the line, as every recreation and deletion makes the article harder to stick in the future. WP:CHILL is a piece I wrote a while ago that many editors have agreed with, and I think it really applies in this case. Cheers, <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 14:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input, that's what I'll do. THF 14:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

and
User:ItsforaquestItsforaquest 21:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * For more on this odd message, see the user's contribs. Seems like a strange sort of spam or evangelizing...  Dismas |(talk) 21:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

prods
Absolutely right, I was moving too fast. DGG (talk) 07:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Porto
Yes, I has hasty. Thanks! The Ogre 15:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well... you started a little later than me, so you are ahead! And I'm sure your edits are of better quality tham mine! :] The Ogre 16:14, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I feel kinda bad for the guy
I mean, I waited several days, figuring Jaime could maybe read his page and do some reading and research, and I just feel bad for the guy, I guess he was trying, but... I still hate to be the one to "narc" on him and get him blocked. And now I also feel like L was calling me an idiot for suggesting it was Spanish (Spain and Portugal are sister countries, why wouldn't he read/write Spanish?) so now I feel guilty and scolded, lol... Anyway, sorry you had to block him, but I did give him plenty of slack, and I wrote a simple, custom note rather than using a template, hoping he'd understand it. *sigh*. <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF0000">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 06:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I know his heart was in the right place, and I don't think you're exactly "ignorant" - America and Canada speak the same language, right? I lived in Pt for a year, and they don't really think of each other as sister countries, just neighbours. Anyway, the Portuguese WP is the place for him right now. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 06:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess, and while I admit I'm ignorant about many foreign languages, I just felt like L was bashing me :( *sigh*. Oh well. I hope that he's able to help the Portugal Wikipedia! And thanks for getting involved, as unpleasant as it was. <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF0000">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 06:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Scottish Islands
Hi and welcome to the project. Let me know if you need anything. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Everything OK?
Yes........I normally do these because I have alert e whwn i donj't leave an edit summary.K14 03:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Aggie Moffatt
I don't disagree; it was just annoying to have it redirected without any input. - Dudesleeper · Talk 09:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand. You'll have to forgive me for assuming it might not be the most watched article. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 09:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Izzy Dunfore
I feel that the source I provided this time was a reliable one. It was from a discussions board which is affiliated with Sid through Shawn Crahan and it was a post made by somebody who works very closely to all the members of Slipknot and their work. (Rezter 11:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC))

Retzer
I have left him a message about this. sorry i didnt notice because i havent been online on a few days. thanks for telling me.  Smith cool  11:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:Barnstar
Thanks a lot, 'tis most appreciated! :D PC78 14:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

RFCN oops
Went to archive it, but an admin needs to close it first :) Wanna do the honors?  <font color="CC66FF">Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ <font color="0066CC">Gold 15:57, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

viking skull
hello, i see you have made some minor edits to viking skull. i have no problem with this, what i would like to know is, why did you remove jess margeras website link from the viking skull page?

and also speaking of jess, i think we need to updat his page here on wikipedia. --Ry90 12:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed Jess Margera's website because his "official page" consists only of Amazon purchase links and a members-only message board - hardly an encyclopedic site as required by WP:EL. He is also yet to release anything with VS and his status within the band is unclear, seems this might be a guest role rather than permanent membership. As ever, go ahead and update Jess's page if you have well sourced, encyclopedic info to add. Cheers, <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 12:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Sumerian people
Your solution is better. THF 11:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Congrats! <span style="font-family:Arial; font-weight:bold; border:none; font-size:10pt; padding:2px; line-height:10pt; width:30em;">— <font color="#660099">Ocat <font color="#333333">ecir T 02:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers guys :) Korea is working out very well, having a blast. Been here on and off for quite a while now.. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 08:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Cyber-metal
Hello. I found that the article was necessary to mak because it is claimed to be an offshoot of another genre, and therefore, it's own. However, the information that was provided for that article was nonetheless contributed by a reader to a section of the Industrial metal page. The information of the Cyber-metal page should at least be recovered and placed in its previous location in the Industrial-metal genre. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jotsko (talk • contribs) 04:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So the info is somewhere in the history of Industrial metal? Or was some stuff only in Cyber metal? <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 08:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

2007 pages
You appear to be in the wrong. I'll leave it at that. Londo06 07:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

It appeared to malicous edits, citing a discussion that supported the inclusion on 2007 pages, but excluding them from club pages. Londo06 07:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

It was believed you were being malicious, which I have now verified. Londo06 08:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I believed you to be meddling. I will apologise for any offense caused with the dog slur. I am more accustomed to administrators who would interact with editors. I was unaware that you were an administrator as you came accross as more of another editor as your cited discussion actually went in favour of 2007 pages. I will look to be retrospective rather than forward thinking when posting. Londo06 13:13, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE LOOK AT BRISBANE BRONCOS 2007 PAGE, THERE IS A RUN ON TEAM THERE AND MANY OTHER NRL TEAM PAGES, EXPLAIN WHY THEY CANNOT BE ONE ON BRADFORD BULLS 2007 PAGE? kesboy7916:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the Barnstar. Never thought I'd get one of those. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 17:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Undo revision
Hello, Deiz. I read your warning comment. I admit that some editors could think undo without any explanation unacceptable in Wiki. However, I thought that reverting edit in itself indicates the disagreement to the prior editor. Besides, the input space was complex and crowded due to the automatic tag for undo.

I have not ever thought of Wikipedia as repository of images. Every articles in wiki are in progress and in transient status and need more suitable images for people to understand what they read. In my perspective, the three images uploaded by Isaac Crumm are not good enough to represent Namdaemun market. Honestly, the pictures have technical problems and look not so great. Therefore, I intended to remove the them from the page as soon as I upload the images to Common Wiki. If I simply exchange them with images in spite of leaving a good explanation, the uploader might 've felt unpleasant. So, I firstly put the five new images from the common wiki, but you quickly reverted the page.

Most of all, it is hard for me to understand your action to remove the Commoncat|Namaemun market template repeatedly. The template can provide more info of the market.

On the other hand, Namdaemun market is just a small market as you think. It is the oldest and largest wholesale market in Seoul. The average customers of the market per day are almost 500,000 people. 9,265 shops are located in it. Your comment seems lack of your knowledge regarding it. Wiki is open dictionary for everyone as we all know and anyone can update the contents with better sources. --Appletrees 23:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Use images that uniquely identify the market, and don't use 8 images where 3 or 4 will do, that's the rule of thumb around here. It's a popular market, but it's a market all the same. If the edit summary line is crowded, just remove the undo text and add your own explanation. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 00:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Bradford Bulls 2007 Match day Team and Scorers
I took the idea from Liverpool_F.C._season_2007-08 why havent you picked up on that site? and why hasnt that been put up for deletion?

User talk:kesboy79 13:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I would rate that article as more encyclopedic than Bradford Bulls 2007, and incomparable to the article proposed for deletion. We do not need 1) a team article with extensive current team data, 2) a current season article with seriously unencyclopedic minute details, and data forked from the parent, and 3) yet another separate article with a rundown of the lineup for each and every game played in a given season - this is not what Wikipedia or any encyclopedia is intended for. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 13:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

2007 run on teams
hey there. finally I see someone is getting this "run on team" thing sorted. Unfortunately I made 2007 pages for all UK NRL and superleague teams that didn;t already have a 2007 page, just so I could "hide" these pointless starting lineups on. I have now gone through all these (well, some of them so far) deleting all info. As an admin, could you go through and delete all these articles please, as they will never have anything more than just a lineup on them. I realise that I went around this the long way, but I was fed up of deleting the lineup just to have it re-added, so I started the 2007 pages as a way to get these lineups off the main article pages. Cheers! Nouse4aname 09:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The thing about starting lineups is now part of WP:NOT so future lineups can be removed on-sight according to policy. The 2007 pages are a different proposition, if you look at the Liverpool 2007 page linked above, there is at least a standard to aspire to here. They can't be speedily deleted under WP:CSD so theres nothing I can unilaterally do as an admin. You could nominate them for deletion the normal way but as there is potentially sourceable info to put on them they would probably survive... <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 10:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, fair enough. If you could take a look at these pages however, I was the creator (and only contributor) to these pages for the most part. They are extremely unlikely to see any activity, considering the season's end is only a week or two away! Where there was no further info than just the team lineup, I blanked the page (which I believe is a deletion request, if done by the original author). Anyhow, sorry for the confusion, at least these lineups should now disappear. Nouse4aname 10:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're the only contributor you can add db-author to propose speedy deletion. If they get flushed this would beef up your case at AfD for any that have been worked on by others. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 10:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * They have been fleshed out beyond the initial details. ie re-signings, players out, etc Londo06 10:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks you
Thank for you　kindness. I wish for happiness.Tokyo Watcher 16:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Open water swimming
Why all the changes at ths Open water swimming article? I thought some of the information you removed was useful. Griot 16:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Routine cleanup per policy.. WP is not a place to host "related links" or unverified information. There is also a provision against linking externally to specific sites from a general topic. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 00:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought the reading list was pretty good. Mind if I restore it? Griot 01:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If the cited works have been used as references for the article, they can be cited as such.. if it's just a "reading list" of books that give further information then it wouldn't be appropriate. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 02:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Plenty of wiki articles have "Further reading" sections. Is that against the law now, too? Griot 03:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * There is no provision on Wikipedia for "reading lists", if some article contain them they should be reformatted... as I said, if they are used as sources for the text contained in the article they should be listed. If they are notable works with an existing article of their own, they can be bluelinked. If its just a book that has something to do with the subject it shouldnt be listed. Hope this helps! <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 04:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Dispute at An Jung-geun
Hi could you please take a look at this article talk page? You're an admin, right? Something obviously wrong is going on here. Thanks. (Wikimachine 20:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC))
 * Looks like theres an open request for comment.. not much I can unilaterally do as an admin in content disputes like this. I'll keep an eye on it.. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 00:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well yeah but there's something obviously wrong in that article. You know, how somebody pops up & dubs George Washington as a murderer? & then an assassin? (Wikimachine 01:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC))
 * Hi Deiz, as one of the interested parties in the above dispute, I would welcome your comments, as the opinion of an un-biased admin is always welcome.

many thanksSennen goroshi 16:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Harlequins 2007 RL
There seems to be speculation relating to signings that have been made, Ben Cohen,Gareth Haggetty and Stuart Littler, please will delete them, becasue i have tried but they keep getting undone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.11.215 (talk) 15:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Stated that they are not due to become squad members at this point, merely the announcement of pre-contracts agreed, and that for Cohen Quins have agreed a financial package with his agent, but not the club, as per yesterday. Londo06 15:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If something is unverified then remove it with the summary "Removing unsourced per WP:V". If it is constantly reincluded without sources, read the laundry list at the top of WP:AN and decide where to report it. I'm offline as of now. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 16:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Women syndrome
There is a talk thread if you want to dispute the NPOV tag but your removal of it appears like trolling, SqueakBox 02:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Right, trolling. There is an NPOV tag in the box. This is why the multiple issues box was invented, to avoid duplication and tag clutter. And don't worry, I'm writing on the talk page. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 02:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

86.158.232.140
I have a feeling this anonymous IP might be Squeakbox trying evade the 3RR on the Missing White Woman Syndrome article. What do you think??? Fighting for Justice 03:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No-brainer. Already mentioned at WP:ANI <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 03:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem is that I am in Honduras and according to my IP locator the IP is based in the UK. And even I couldnt get a meatpuppet to call my tune at 5 am (UK time), SqueakBox 04:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Then maybe the IP will be so good as to explain him/herself. In any case, this is just going to end up with the page being protected on a version you don't like. Why not go find some sources which back up your assertions about the article? As of right now it's well sourced and you're making a big deal out of opposing multiple established editors about the colour of a maintentance tag. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 04:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope, right now its sourced to promote the concept of the white wonman syndrome, and there are no refs to balnce the NPOV. NPOV?. Anyway I will afd it when it gets unlocked as the only decent solution, we really are not here to support the extremist views of the odd rascist like Fourdee. There is a lot of criticism in the UK that the police take more care re black murders than white murders and this is just one of those really stupid articles that deserves no place on a noble project like wikipedia. Iw as planning to source the opposite view ocver the w/end but its too late now. NPOV tagging is so standard and I dont think much of editors who remove NPOV tags, I woukld never dream of doing ps in such a situation even if I disagreed with the tag placer. I suggest you drop the IP address a line if you want them to respond, it appears to be a new user, SqueakBox 04:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. See ya. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">z</FONT> talk 04:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)