User:Sticks66/ Useful Tools and Tips


 * Nat Library of Australia Image Searchengine

Category name order
As far as I know the way the names are listed in the category is determined by the way in which the category is added to the individual article... So - "Category:Dual code rugby internationals|Price, Ray (rugby league footballer)" would list Ray Price under 'P' for Price. I think this is the way you should proceed in terms of this category. I imagine it would require changing all the pages unless there is some automatic way of doing it that I don't yet know about! -- User:CumberlandsAshes81 12 September 2006

Lists of Dual Rugby Internationals
Here is a list of DIs I found in the "Australian Sporting Records" 1988 edition. No idea if it's complete, of and course doesn't include any since 1988. --Angry mob mulls options 12:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Bah. If I'd looked here first, I would've seen this (from the 2005 Rugby League Annual) -- it's reasonable to assume that this *is* definitive. --Angry mob mulls options 13:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Redirecting duplicate articles
With Kevin Ryan, I simply made Kevin Ryan (footballer) a redirect to Kevin Ryan (rugby league footballer). You do this by replacing all the content on the page with this code:


 * 1) REDIRECT Kevin Ryan (rugby league footballer)

To sort out John Sutton you'll need to merge the two articles, just move thie stuff on one that isn't on the other over to the other, then make the first one a redirect. Geddit? I'd go with having the article at simply John Sutton, it's an easier name. Finally for deleting Cyril Abotomy, it needs listed at Articles_for_deletion. Grinner 17:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Creating sub-pages
I had this all written out quite well and lost my edit... damn proxy server I guess. Anyway, it works like this: User:Sticks66/Build links Go to your user page User:Sticks666

Edit it

Create a link to a subpage (the subpage doesn't exist yet) such as User:Sticks666/Sandbox
 * (note: it's a page in your user space - nobody else really cares what name you use, as long as it's not a banned name in which case you will find that out pretty quickly). A lot of people as you pointed out have them named for the project they are working on, and if you use them for drafts then there's nothing wrong with User:Sticks666/Articlename which makes it easy to move the subpage straight to Articlename. And to remember what the subpage is for when you fall off that bandwagon... ;)

Save your user page.

Your user page now has a redlink to User:Sticks666/Sandbox (or whatever). Click it and you will get to the edit screen for a page in user space which does not exist yet. That page has a blurb referring you to WP:SUBPAGES. When you need more information than what I have just given you, go and check it out.

PS. If you need more prompt assistance, put the template on your talk page. Apparently it gets fairly prompt (<10 minutes) responses, from a group of people who have that template on a watch list or something. Garrie 23:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Creating categories
It's been a while since I did Categories but if you scroll to the bottom of any categorised page in editing mode you'll see a few boxes showing: or something to that effect. When categorising things, make sure you group the cateogry with the rest of the existing ones down the bottom of the page. This will make them easier to manage. Hope that helps. mdmanser 13:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure why, but categories stay redlinked until you edit that redlinked category and add another category into it (i.e. the St. George players category should link to "rugby league players" or something). Check out how other similar categories employ hierachy and do the same thing I guess. The linked articles to that category should already appear in that category if you check - when you click it you'll get an edit page but if you scroll down I think it should list out all of those players already put into there. Test it out. Good luck. mdmanser 13:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Default sort
Sample Default sort -- use Ron Coote

Force a section break at a particular point
I found the code that creates the break automatically. It's <*br style="clear:both;" /> - remove the asterisk.

Reverting Vandalism
Yeah I did just it with no problems. Were you having some issues with being able to revert them? Thanks for letting me know about it either way. Cheers, mdmanser 12:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha yeah it's pretty straight forward, but only when you figure out how to do it. It wasn't until a month or two ago that I realised there was a simple way. Basically go through the history and click the version before the vandalism by clicking the date and time. It opens up an archived page whereby you click "edit" and then save the page. However, an easier way is to to click "last" next to the vandlised section. Here it shows you a difference between the two pages - at the top right hand side of the newer version there is an "undo" button. Click that and then just save the next page that comes up. It took me 24 months to realise the section option existed...
 * As for administrators, they have the right to delete and undelete pages, ban users and edit protected pages (which they can also protect and unprotect further). If you ever need help with stuff like that I suggest dropping User:DaGizza a line. Hope all this helps! mdmanser 13:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Categorising the name of one person who appears in a broader article
Hey Florrie, Been linking a few old coaches to the RL Coaches category. Because the article I wrote on Frank Burge is actually about him and his three brothers and called Burge Family when I link Category:Rugby league coaches|Burge, Frank I get the family name on the list in the category. I've also noticed it in similar situations with the McLean Family (rugby footballers). Any clues how this can be avoided so the relevant individual name shows on the category list ? -Sticks66 08:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Worked this out in case your interested. Ensure each player in a "family" article has their own name article that REDIRECTS to the family article. On that own name article post the "Category" on the same line as the REDIRECT command. Then on the Category list will appear the name, albeit that it will be in italics unlike all others. -Sticks66 09:40, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

state of origin infobox
You simply use the same infobox, but change the "image" parameter. For instance, from the 1985 series article:

The image parameter can be changed to whatever image the Harvey Norman one is.  SpecialWindler    talk   (currently )  20:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Uploading Public Domain photographs
I'm not sure how much information you need but as I am used to writing job descriptions from scratch, I'll start at the beginning. This is for Mozilla, by the way, but I think it's pretty similar to IE if you use it.
 * 1) Select photograph from PicturesAustralia
 * 2) Save image to your desktop (or other folder) by right click, save image as
 * 3) In the 'save image' pop-up, type image name in file name text box (e.g. M.J. Dore 1907.jpg)
 * 4) Click on 'save' and file will be sent to your desktop (or other folder)
 * 5) In Wikipedia, click on Upload file in the left hand menu and the Wikipedia Upload page will appear
 * 6) Towards the bottom of the page, go to Do you already know the license and are familiar with our image policies? Go directly to the upload form. and click on upload form.
 * 7) The Upload file page will appear. Scroll past all the warnings and other text until you get to the upload file form.
 * 8) Next to the source filename text field is the browse button. Select the browse button.
 * 9) Select the file from your desktop or other folder from the file upload pop-up.
 * 10) Select open on the pop-up and the file sourcename and destination filename will appear in the text fields on the upload file form.
 * 11) If you wish to change the destination filename at this point you may do so.
 * 12) In the summary field, type in.
 * 13) If you wish to type in any other comment such as 'image cropped from Image:Joe_Bloggs_1949.jpg' type it underneath the PD-Australia template.
 * 14) Ignore Licensing and go down to upload file
 * 15) Select upload file and that's it.

Hope that helps! Have fun. &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 10:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Rugby League Images
Try Picture Australia as it has about 1200 rugby league images. Boylo (talk) 07:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That website is found at http://www.pictureaustralia.org/ Sticks. MDM (talk) 07:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyright free photos for our articles on Aust RL Old Timers
Relocated from WP:RL Project talk page

Mentioned before that I have more failure than success at uploading images, so I'm requesting assistance of Project to upload to our articles 10 old shots. All usable under pre-1955 "copyright expired" rationale Boylo refers to above which he successfully quotes in clear detail on Harry Bath.

The shots are at http://www.pictureaustralia.org/

PLAYERS: Search "Harold Horder" for two that could add to Harold Horder; search "Mick Madsen" reveals a shot & two cartoons for Mick Madsen; search "Duncan Thompson" for a shot and a caricature for Duncan Thompson; search "Vic Hey" for an excellent portrait of the great Vic Hey.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Harold_Horder_1919.jpg Now on article
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mick_Madsen_1935.jpg  Now on article
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vic_Hey_c1930.jpg     Now on article
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Duncan_Thompson_1925.jpg Now on article
 * - If this is what you are after, I'll keep going. I'm using the same Public domain permission as used by Boylo so I can blame him if these get pulled! &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 23:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

ADMINISTRATORS: Search "Harry Sumerland" (sic) & "J J Giltinan" for photos to add to the stubs Harry Sunderland and J J Giltinan. GROUP SHOTS: Search "Founders of Queensland Rugby Football League". This shot would perfectly add early in the History paragraph of Queensland Rugby League plus also appropriate to repeat on the individual articles of Micky Dore and George Watson (rugby footballer). TEAM SHOTS: Not generally suggesting we add team shots to individ. articles but for Jim Craig (rugby league) & Bill Tyquin I think the shots from the respective searches "unbeaten Queensland 1924" and "Queensland Rugby League Team in 1949" are appropriate since a) there are no other shots of these guys, b) they're the captains in each and part of their notability is their status as national & state captains.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Harry_Sunderland.jpg
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:J.J._Giltinan.jpg
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kangaroos_tour_1908_1909.jpg - with JJ Giltinan
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Queensland_Rugby_League_Founders_1907.jpg Now on article
 * I can upload the whole pic but I could also crop the individual from the enlarged versions of the pics if you want? &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 23:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

FINALLY: Search "two captains shake hands" reveals a great shot to add to NSWRL season 1934 since it shows Dave Brown (rugby league) (in his distinctive headgear) and Frank McMillan shaking hands and seems to indeed be the Grand Final. Also appropriate on McMillan's article.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Queensland_Rugby_League_Representatives_1924a.jpg Now on article
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Queensland_Rugby_League_Team_1949.jpg Now on article
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bill_Tyquin_1949.jpg                  Now on article
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jim_Craig_%28rugby_league%29_1924.jpg Now on article
 * Not a free image - This image is provided for research purposes only and must not be reproduced without the prior permission of the State Library of NSW. &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 23:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone help me with this endeavour ? I'll get on any missing infoboxes for any above players - Sticks  66  12:01, 26 March 2008


 * Fantastic, thanks. And what about the cropped shots of Tyquin and Craig. Wonders never cease. Ta - Sticks  66  11:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I cropped Mr Watson and Mr Dore from the Founders photo if you want a clearer head shot. Not that the photo itself is particularly clear, but you can get a better look at them than seen in the group pic.

&bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 12:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:G.W._Watson_1907.jpg
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M.J._Dore_1907.jpg

Pre-1955 Copyright expiry on photos
Hi Sticks66, I've been wondering that too, but its my interpretation that Aust copyright laws as briefly outlined in Template:PD-Australia, override that of the library. Perhaps the libraries add that statement to each image they upload so they don't have to continually update expired copyrights etc. I had a look at ACC Information Sheet G23 (Duration of copyright) (Sep 2005), and it states that: "copyright lasted until 50 years from the end of the year of the artist’s death. However, different rules applied for: photographs (if taken before 1 May 1969, 50 years from the end of the year they were taken; on or after 1 May 1969, 50 years from the end of the year of first publication)". All a bit confusing really, but I figure that if you follow the PD-Australia guidelines, it's all good. Hope that was in some way helpful! Loopla (talk) 12:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguating individuals with a common name
I've encountered this before with Justin Smith (I think?) or some other player, can't remember. I've just been a bit lazy with it. I read a wikipedia guidlines page specifically related to this a while ago when I was trying to figure out what to do. Just tried to find it again quickly, but couldn't. I think there are some options. Using middle names or nationalities or maybe the dates of birth if known?--Jeff79 (talk) 02:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * There's a bit about it here, which I didn't read until after I named the Jeremy Smiths as (rugby league) and (rugby league 2). But as you don't (I assume) have the middle name for either of the Peter Gallagher's, it doesn't really help. One as (rugby league Qld), the other as (rugby league NSW)? Peter Gallagher needs a disambiguation page, too, otherwise it goes straight to some actor and there's no disambig hat on the article. &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 02:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Making red-links your friend
What's that trick again that enables one to see how many articles link to a red-linked name ? - Sticks  66  07:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Click on the red-link and when the page to start the article loads, click on "what links here" in the toolbox on the left of the page. You'll get a list (if there are any articles linking, that is.) &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 07:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Two column reference
Hi-di-hi. Is there a way to get a narrow list of references appear as two columns. Such as would look good here. Cheers - Sticks  66  12:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep. does the job. :) &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 13:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Cats on redirects
The basic problem with haveing cats on redirects is that ther are bots that create talk pages for them so as to put tags on them, which then have to be deleted.--Grahame (talk) 12:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose you can put the cat tags on them, but next time a bot goes around somebody is likely to delete them.--Grahame (talk) 12:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Where can I see the number of hits per Wikipedia article?

 * I just use

Tell me do
I've never been able to work out that trick to make a multi-used ref appear once in the Ref list with a, b, c etc. You just fixed it here. How do you do that ? - Sticks  66  13:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It’s explained in WP:REFNAME. Give the first instance of the reference a name in the ref tag (as in ) then for all subsequent instances, just put the shortened form (in my example, you’d just put ) as the whole thing. Hope that helps :) — Hebrides (talk) 13:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Move a page

 * When you move a page, you are supposed use the move button, not copy the text into the desired target and redirect the old. When a cut and paste move is performed, it keep the old page history at the redirect and attribution for the article is broken. A more detail explanation can be found here.--NortyNort (Holla) 21:40, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * There are pictures and a step-by-step here. It's part of a drop down on the upper-right part of an article during normal view. I'll be honest, it took me a month at first to understand there was a "move" and not "rename" function.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:09, 8 July 2011 (UTC)