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I reverted your edit on SpongeBob SquarePants (season 12) because that is not the correct title of the episode. Wait until the official title is confirmed. Beasting123 (talk) 02:38, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
March 2019
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you create an inappropriate page, as you did at Please delete. Cabayi (talk) 19:51, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Materialscientist (talk) 22:17, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I took this week to think about what I have done that got me blocked, and I now understand why the more bizarre redirects got deleted, and I know not to make these again. I understand that sources like funnysigns.net are not reliable so I learned to not make redirects using pictures from there again on this site. Also I understand that I created these two "delete this" pages as test pages and I know not to make those again or create any other inappropriate pages. While I do understand that my bizarre redirects got deleted, and I know not to make bizarre redirects again, the other redirects that I have made that all got mass deleted mostly consist of alternative names/other capitalizations/plausible misspellings to aid readers as search terms, and some of them are actually reasonable redirects that I feel didn't need to be deleted. After I get unblocked, the contributions I plan to make are improving episode lists for TV shows, by adding airdates for new entries once they get confirmed, which I have done before, as well as listing new varieties or flavors of other products once pictures of them show up or once they get confirmed. When I get unblocked, I plan to go back to doing all these productive contributions I've been doing on Wikipedia back then, minus making all these bizarre redirects that led me to my block. Colgatepony234 (talk) 00:09, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Accept reason:
There's been response from the blocking admin, so I've unblocked you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:47, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- That sounds good, but can you tell us (in your own words) what a reliable source is? For example, is the IMDb a reliable source? Why or why not? You can just reply below without opening a new unblock request. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- OK. So a reliable source is a published source which has been checked for accuracy before being published, and these are usually articles from books, magazines, or articles from the Internet that have been checked for accuracy. I now understand that the sources that I have used for some redirects, like funnysigns.net are definitely not reliable sources because they rely on user-generated content. Although the information I did get for my edits to SpongeBob SquarePants (season 12) to add confirmed episodes to the list, even though it may have come from a social media site, it is from one of the people who run the show. Colgatepony234 (talk) 11:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Can you expand a little bit on what you mean by "checked for accuracy"? Also, please keep in mind that pictures on the internet are frequently faked. I can upload a picture of myself driving a Ferrari on the moon, but the chances are pretty slim that I've done so. Also, vendors sometimes lie. Be careful of automatically trusting a primary source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- What I mean is the information in these reliable sources has to have been checked and verified to be factual and accurate, and has all the majority views on the specific topic covered. And as that article about reliable sources said if Wikipedia does not have any reliable source on the topic then I shouldn't make a page on it, and I understand that part now. I understand these funnysigns redirects are not a reliable source, and I know not to make pages redirecting from that name again. Also about IMDb if it's a reliable source or not, it's not really that reliable, because information on there about some movies, TV shows, or web episodes can be added by its users, and so are the reviews that people post on this site, so the site relies on mostly user-generated content. Colgatepony234 (talk) 13:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Right, but who is checking these sources and verifying their content? What job title would you look for in the "about us" or "staff" page to tell if a website has (ostensibly) been fact-checked? If you can answer that, you're most of the way to being able to spot a reliable source. By the way, only our articles have to be neutral and include majority views. Reliable sources can be biased. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- I had to search this one up, and two job titles that I found for this kind of thing are "associate editor" and "editorial assistant." Since these people are the assistants of people who write articles in newspapers or magazines, they assist in checking for facts and verifying that the statistics that they have found out are accurate. Colgatepony234 (talk) 17:47, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: Please put my unblock request on hold while you wait for the comment from the blocking administrator. Colgatepony234 (talk) 23:05, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- I had to search this one up, and two job titles that I found for this kind of thing are "associate editor" and "editorial assistant." Since these people are the assistants of people who write articles in newspapers or magazines, they assist in checking for facts and verifying that the statistics that they have found out are accurate. Colgatepony234 (talk) 17:47, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Right, but who is checking these sources and verifying their content? What job title would you look for in the "about us" or "staff" page to tell if a website has (ostensibly) been fact-checked? If you can answer that, you're most of the way to being able to spot a reliable source. By the way, only our articles have to be neutral and include majority views. Reliable sources can be biased. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- What I mean is the information in these reliable sources has to have been checked and verified to be factual and accurate, and has all the majority views on the specific topic covered. And as that article about reliable sources said if Wikipedia does not have any reliable source on the topic then I shouldn't make a page on it, and I understand that part now. I understand these funnysigns redirects are not a reliable source, and I know not to make pages redirecting from that name again. Also about IMDb if it's a reliable source or not, it's not really that reliable, because information on there about some movies, TV shows, or web episodes can be added by its users, and so are the reviews that people post on this site, so the site relies on mostly user-generated content. Colgatepony234 (talk) 13:39, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Can you expand a little bit on what you mean by "checked for accuracy"? Also, please keep in mind that pictures on the internet are frequently faked. I can upload a picture of myself driving a Ferrari on the moon, but the chances are pretty slim that I've done so. Also, vendors sometimes lie. Be careful of automatically trusting a primary source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- OK. So a reliable source is a published source which has been checked for accuracy before being published, and these are usually articles from books, magazines, or articles from the Internet that have been checked for accuracy. I now understand that the sources that I have used for some redirects, like funnysigns.net are definitely not reliable sources because they rely on user-generated content. Although the information I did get for my edits to SpongeBob SquarePants (season 12) to add confirmed episodes to the list, even though it may have come from a social media site, it is from one of the people who run the show. Colgatepony234 (talk) 11:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Bizarre redirects
I think I see a Neelix 2.0. Remember the Neelix incident, anyone? PrussianOwl (talk) 09:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
About my redirects
@Materialscientist: I now see and understand why some of the more bizarre redirects (like Diet ice or Tree blood) got removed, and I know not to make those again. These can stay deleted. But in that mass deletion, all of my 100 or so redirects got deleted, including some useful ones that I've made to aid searchers, or some plausible misspellings or alternative names. Some of them like Hoolahoop, or Curved yellow fruit were even nominated for RFD and ended with a Keep or No consensus result. And some of them were even plural forms of other titles. So in short, I understand why the more bizarre ones got deleted, but did every single one of my redirects, including the useful ones to aid readers, really need to be deleted?
Also do you have any questions for me I have to answer, before I can consider submitting an unblock? Colgatepony234 (talk) 17:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Don't be modest, there were nearly 270 of them, dealing with every type of condiment, stick (stix), bodily function, consistency of excrement, wristband, numerical variety of Pepsi & Coke, and letter of the alphabet - prefixed with "Letter" in both lower and upper cases just in case someone was reading the wiki without being aware of the concept of letters. 9 redirects remain. We don't need petty redirects to help searchers, the search tools work really well. All you were doing was giving typos a false legitimacy, and constraining users to one interpretation of your search phrase where many may exist. We don't need funnysigns.net replicated on the wiki. This is an encyclopedia. Cabayi (talk) 18:25, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly, some of this user's redirects were plausible, even though some were kind of silly. I don't think it's a good idea to nuke all of them even if some did fail WP:G5. Redirects are cheap, after all. PrussianOwl (talk) 09:57, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- PrussianOwl, none of them were deleted under G5 because G5 does not apply. Your comment here has clarified for me the basis for your flawed argument at Wikipedia:Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I suggest you carefully re-read the criteria of G5. Cabayi (talk) 10:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly, some of this user's redirects were plausible, even though some were kind of silly. I don't think it's a good idea to nuke all of them even if some did fail WP:G5. Redirects are cheap, after all. PrussianOwl (talk) 09:57, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Wasn't this user topic-banned from redirects? They mostly got deleted for some criteria, the ones that weren't nonsense or bizarre, but I don't remember exactly what. PrussianOwl (talk) 10:29, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- PrussianOwl, I've checked the history of this page, nothing's been deleted. Please point to the topic ban. Cabayi (talk) 10:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- @PrussianOwl: is right. While I understand why some of the more bizarre redirects got deleted, I did make some plausible ones but those got deleted too. Like as I said, Hoolahoop, which I created in 2018, went through an RFD and the result was keep due to it being a plausible phonetic misspelling of "hula hoop". Colgatepony234 (talk) 10:59, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't mean this exact page or userspace in general, I mean ColgatePony234's redirects. I know they were deleted en masse for something, but I don't remember what offhand. I do know some of these were silly ("magical poop-stealing water chair") but a good amount were plausible redirects ("Letter Z" -> Z). PrussianOwl (talk) 11:23, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- PrussianOwl, if a topic ban had been put into effect against Colgatepony234 anywhere then Colgatepony234 would have been notified about it here. No notification here = no topic ban anywhere.
- "I don't remember what offhand" - then visit one of them (Going poo, Writing stick, Pimple-popping, Liquid fecal matter...), they all state quite clearly why they were deleted. Cabayi (talk) 12:33, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- facepalm* Duh, I should have remembered it was an R3. I objected to it on a few pages as I didn't think the criterion applied in that particular case. Honestly, I think this user acted in good faith and should be unbanned. PrussianOwl (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- If that was good faith then the situation looks more like a case of WP:CIR. Like you, I can no longer see the deleted articles in Colgatepony234's contributions history but I had the distinct impression that C234 was emboldened by the amount of liquidy poop they had created without too much pushback and was creating more. Cabayi (talk) 15:39, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- I should also point out, C234 is blocked, not banned. Cabayi (talk) 15:43, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Again, @PrussianOwl: is right. While I do understand why my bizarre ones got deleted, all the other ones I made that are actually plausible redirects, I made these in good faith. Yes I am telling the truth by saying this. I understand why the bizarre ones are gone, and these can stay deleted but the rest of the non-bizarre ones I made, most of them are plausible redirects that I feel like they didn't need to be deleted. Colgatepony234 (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Well, that's an interesting approach. Good luck justifying your liquid crap in your unblock request. Cabayi (talk) 17:34, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Also I'd like to mention that there's a reason why I made some redirects. There are pages like Letter B and Letter U that still exist, so I made redirects for all the other 24 letters of the alphabet so there can be one for every letter. And Mayochup is Heinz's brand of fry sauce, which makes it an alternative name for the sauce, so I made a page redirecting to that too. I understand why the bizarre ones (like the ones I got from funnysigns.net, I learned from it and know not to make those again) got deleted, but really, looking through what got deleted (I got all the notifications in my email), a lot of them were actually good redirects that I made to aid readers when they type this particular name in the search or address bar. Well, that's almost 2 years of work down the drain... Colgatepony234 (talk) 02:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Letter B is a disambiguation page, not a redirect. You know the difference.
- Letter U... WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS.
- Mayochup - this is an encyclopedia, not Heinz's sales catalogue.
- "almost 2 years of work down the drain" You should have been stopped earlier, before you'd invested so much effort in them. Seeing them one at a time, for the most part, they weren't awful, nor were they encyclopedic. One at a time nobody would be too bothered. In an ideal world you would have picked up on the mumber of them that were being nominated for deletion. Seen as a whole, they needed to be cleared up.
- If you're going to make a successful bid for unblocking I'd advise you to show you've learnt from the experience, and that you are aware of what makes for a reliable, verifiable, independent citation, i.e. not Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, funnysigns.net, or other WP:UGC. Cabayi (talk) 09:47, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- If I'm blocked how am I supposed to show I learned from my blocking experience? I already read the link and understand what makes a reliable source now. So all I need to do is show I learned from it. Colgatepony234 (talk) 11:58, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Show in your unblock request. I'm not suggesting you go sockpuppeting. Cabayi (talk) 12:00, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- If I'm blocked how am I supposed to show I learned from my blocking experience? I already read the link and understand what makes a reliable source now. So all I need to do is show I learned from it. Colgatepony234 (talk) 11:58, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Also I'd like to mention that there's a reason why I made some redirects. There are pages like Letter B and Letter U that still exist, so I made redirects for all the other 24 letters of the alphabet so there can be one for every letter. And Mayochup is Heinz's brand of fry sauce, which makes it an alternative name for the sauce, so I made a page redirecting to that too. I understand why the bizarre ones (like the ones I got from funnysigns.net, I learned from it and know not to make those again) got deleted, but really, looking through what got deleted (I got all the notifications in my email), a lot of them were actually good redirects that I made to aid readers when they type this particular name in the search or address bar. Well, that's almost 2 years of work down the drain... Colgatepony234 (talk) 02:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Mayochup, even though the idea makes my stomach turn, is a plausible redirect. So are Letter A - Letter Z. PrussianOwl (talk) 01:22, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi
I just wanna remind you that yes you see 48 episode segments confirmed, but theirs still confirmed information that the twelfth season of SpongeBob has 54 episode segments, it’s that the titles for 6 segments haven’t been confirmed yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BaldiBasicsFan (talk • contribs) 04:50, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- It isn't true anymore. All the leaked episodes that got confirmed, are all part of two-episode pairs (except SpongeBob's Big Birthday Blowout and Escape from Beneath Glove World), as found on a Nickelodeon Poland sitemap. Hence it's 48, not 54 anymore. Colgatepony234 (talk) 17:11, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Your edit to "System time"
Thank you for providing a source for your edit to "System time". Would you be willing to format the citation in a more helpful manner, so that if the website changes in the future there will be a better chance of correcting the link rot.
I improved your citation in the article "Time formatting and storage bugs". Please see that article for an example of how to do it. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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