User talk:14Jenna7Caesura

WP:AE
Do not add or change text in a closed WP:AE discussion. The closing of an AE discussion is considered an administrative action (one of the few times closing a discussion is). Thus, it is not allowed to modify or add to a discussion an admin has already closed. You are free to talk to an admin on their user page, ping them here, or in a fresh discussion at the proper venue, just not in a closed AE discussion. I reverted your additions. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 23:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Additionally, this edit was clearly a violation of your topic ban.  You need to read the above carefully.  You are not allowed to edit or discuss any gender related topics or people associated with same, on any article, article talk page, your talk page or anywhere else at the English Wikipedia.  If you do so again, you will be blocked from editing as part of the enforcement of said sanction.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 23:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm trying to as as cordial as I can, but if you revert that comment one more time, you will be indef blocked. I've provided you plenty of reasons why you can't add that material, and have explained it in deep enough detail that you should understand.  This is your final warning.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 00:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * You are clearly harassing me and causing psychological trauma. I thought I had to reply to the comment. You need to back off and cool down.--14Jenna7Caesura (talk) 00:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I added comments to a closed discussion because User:Swarm did ; so I thought it was okay.--14Jenna7Caesura (talk) 00:10, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&undoafter=1082764248&undo=1082765254 was accident.--14Jenna7Caesura (talk) 00:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Ok then. Please note, most admin would have just blocked you the first time.  I was fully authorized to do so, but I'm trying to NOT block you.  I'm trying to help by giving you information, so you understand how to comply.  But the terms of the sanction aren't negotiable.  If you read the tone of the first message, you should understand that, I was merely trying to inform you of what, and why, and how you could talk to them. How you take it, I have no control over.  I can only do what the community has asked me to do. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 00:17, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Jenna, you are being formally sanctioned via a system that is an integral part of the project. You've been given nothing but lenient treatment actually. I know it is unpleasant, but you are expected to remain functional and cooperative with these processes. You don't claim you're being harassed and you don't invoke your mental health. See WP:NOTTHERAPY. If you are being psychologically traumatized by these mere comments from people who are bending over backwards to give you the benefit of the doubt, that is a serious problem and you should probably step away from editing entirely. ~Swarm~  {sting} 09:59, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

It's a big encyclopedia
Hi, 14Jenna. I don't believe we've interacted before, but I'd been following the AE thread. I'm not here to say the decision reached was right or wrong, but I was hoping to share some thoughts, as someone who's been editing Wikipedia for a good while now, and has seen a lot of people wind up in your situation.

The first thing to remember is that a topic ban means that the admins reviewing your case still saw you as doing a lot of good work. If they saw you as a net-negative, they would block you, not topic-ban you. Looking at your contributions, I see you've made over 2,000 edits in 7 months, and I see that a lot of them have been to our articles on the law, which are probably the most neglected intellectual topic area there is. That's all really promising.

When a newer editor gets topic-banned, if they don't just quit editing one of two things tends to happen:
 * 1) They sneak in a few topic-ban violations hoping no one will notice, or they nibble at the edges of the topic ban until they "fly too close to the sun", or they create a new account to try to evade the ban, and they get blocked—usually temporarily at first, but the vicious cycle has begun, and soon enough they're indefinitely blocked.
 * 2) They find other things to edit about. They put completely out of mind the topic area they're banned from. Over the course of six months to a year, they get a better sense of collaborative editing, and build up a portfolio of evidence that they can work well with others even when inevitable disputes arise. And once they can show all that, they appeal the topic ban.

Maybe my perspective is skewed because I do anti-sockpuppetry work, but my sense is that most people pick Option A. But right now you have the choice which way you want things to go. There's still lots of articles about Supreme Court decisions left to be written or expanded. Like, lots of them. I've written two in the past week. (I'm sure you have other interests as well; I just gather that much from skimming your last few hundred edits.) So you could work on those interests. Or you could start the vicious cycle.

I hope you pick Option B. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 03:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

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Multiple accounts
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:16, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, despite 's excellent advice above where she linked our policy regarding multiple accounts, you have created and begun editing with an undisclosed account. You cannot edit under other accounts while there are active sanctions on this one.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:16, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

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